In this episode Song and Sara discuss some of their own journeys with debt - especially around student debt. U.S. Department of Education Announces Transformational Changes to the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program, Will Put Over 550,000 Public Service Workers Closer to Loan Forgiveness Federal Aid Increases College Tuition and Student Loans Credit Card Debt is Bad for your Health   email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram

In the (hopefully, almost) aftermath of yet another wild wildfire season, in an episode that takes us to the California fires (and Sara's childhood!), Sara shares her experience and knowledge of fire management, fire-related history, and policies. And of course, no episode is complete without a discussion of the role of corporations. Recorded Sept. 17, 2021.  California Burning Podcast Timber Wars Podcast Last Line of Defence - Global Witness Report   email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram  

With the spate of legalization and decriminalization laws hitting states, we dove into the history, the current state, and the questions for the future impacts of the laws on communities.  Notes: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/marijuana-legalization/  email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram      

The things that connect us, challenge us, and make our partnership work: enneagram, faith, and Big Friendship. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram  

This Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, Song gets personal. Song and Sara have a conversation around Song's identity, and the role it has had in her career working on policy and using the law to defend the rights of the AAPI community. Song calls out the non-obvious violence (read, police violence and deportations) against the AAPI community, and what it would truly take to Stop Asian Hate.    email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram

... avoiding perfection and powered by ethics. Song and Sara reflect on their Start-ups and DEI Event  Man UnMade podcast with Sarah & Beth My Semester with the Snowflakes     - Huffpost article on the author email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram  

We kicked off our startup series with a conversation with the brilliant Jessica Pachuta and Dror Yaron of Ethics MVP. We talked about our journeys as founders, about practices for operationalizing ethics (name your values!), and as a bonus, even got to hear ethics defined in the most simple, elegant way.    Mentions: Why do we fear innovation?    email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram      

A conversation with Eli Terris on the Insulin for All Campaign, how important state policies are in making real change for accessible health care, and how to be a sustainable activist. Mentions: Connecticut Insulin for All Yale Diabetes Center   email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram      

This week, Song and Sara are joined by human rights lawyer, social impact founder, and communications strategist extraordinaire, Juhu Thukral for a conversation on all things media. Juhu gives us insights on brand strategy and creating messaging for social justice issues that inspire and last, and we discuss how we engage with media today, talking NFL, NBA, and Succession along the way.  email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram

Song and Sara talk about their personal experiences with navigating health insurance providers and platforms in 2020, and discuss some of the things that could make the process better and what economic incentives can we use to really make the system work for the people reliant on it.  email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram