In this episode of FairPlay, Arun Kumar concludes his riveting conversation with Phillip Shoemaker, the Executive Director of Identity.com. Shoemaker reveals some of the secrets behind the success of the Apple App Store, where he worked closely with the legendary Steve Jobs. He gives us a glimpse into Jobs’ genius, charisma, and high expectations and challenges. Kumar also probes Shoemaker's views on Apple’s privacy policies and practices. They explore the complex trade-offs between privacy as a fundamental right and a competitive advantage. Don’t miss this chance to hear from one of the pioneers of the app industry who is now leading the way for a more secure and decentralized digital identity.