Jordan O'Brien is our worship leader at Island Church. As a son of a black father and white mother, he has a unique perspective on life and recent occurrences in our culture. His stories and experiences are uniquely his, but hopefully helpful for others as well. Oh, and Jordan O'Brien is also my son-in-law. I'm proud of him and thankful we were able to record this episode.

Kevin Cloud is the author of the book "God and Hamilton" that looks at the blockbuster musical by Lin-Manuel Miranda and how the life stories of Alexander Hamilton and his wife show clear biblical teachings such as forgiveness, love, redemption, and repentance. This discussion with Kevin goes into areas related to creative expression, the arts, and the church. The impact of story is key. Be sure to check out Kevin's website - godandhamilton.com and get a copy of "God and Hamilton" wherever you purchase books.

Earlier this week I was invited to join a group of pastors from my state, along with our Florida Baptist Convention leaders for a conversation related to racial unity in the church. This was scheduled weeks prior to the George Floyd incident in Minnesota, but proving to be very timely now. This podcast was filmed by the Florida Baptist Convention and is part of their Ministry Coaching series (available at flbaptist.org in video format.) I was given permission to share the audio on my podcast. Featured in this episode are Dr. Tommy Green - Executive Director/Treasurer of the Florida Baptist Convention, Patrick Coats - Black/Multicultural Church Catalyst of the Florida Baptist Convention, Micah Ferguson - Strategic Initiatives Director of the Florida Baptist Convention, Pastor Erik Cummings of New Life Church of Carol City in Miami Gardens, Florida and current President of the Florida Baptist State Convention, Pastor Theo Johnson of Sweet Home Missionary Baptist Church in Miami, Florida, Pastor Ted Traylor of Olive Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida and me.