Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar return for Part 2 of their 'Epic Marriage' conversation with Nick and Alex. LaCol shares their 10-year infertility journey and the moment they reached peace without children. They told each other "we're good. If we go the rest of our lives without kids, that will be an amazing life together." After surrendering that desire to God, they were surprised with three children through adoption.

Silence Isn’t Protection: How Parents Shape Healthy Sexuality, Faith, and Future Marriages

Epic Marriage is the podcast for  couples of faith who want more than just "making it work." Hosts Nick and Alex Leyva tackle the conversations most couples avoid—betrayal recovery, faith transitions, physical connection, trust rebuilding, and rediscovering desire after years of marriage.
With 12 years of marriage, 5 kids, and training among top family scientists and marriage therapists, Nick and Alex bring real experience to real problems. No fluff, no surface-level advice—just the tools and insights you need to transform your eternal marriage.
Whether you're newlyweds figuring it out or longtime couples ready for something better, this show gives you permission to have the difficult conversations that lead to breakthrough. Because "for time and all eternity" should feel epic, not exhausting.