Ben and LaCol Kjar share their extraordinary love story on the Epic Marriage podcast. Ben was born with Crouzon Syndrome and became Utah Valley University's first All-American wrestler after doctors said contact sports were impossible. LaCol was a track athlete who slid into Ben's DMs and came home from their first date knowing she was in trouble—she thought she might be in love.

Stand Out: Let Him—The Power of Releasing Control

Epic Marriage is the podcast for  couples of faith who want more than just "making it work." Hosts Nick and Alex Leyva tackle the conversations most couples avoid—betrayal recovery, faith transitions, physical connection, trust rebuilding, and rediscovering desire after years of marriage.
With 12 years of marriage, 5 kids, and training among top family scientists and marriage therapists, Nick and Alex bring real experience to real problems. No fluff, no surface-level advice—just the tools and insights you need to transform your eternal marriage.
Whether you're newlyweds figuring it out or longtime couples ready for something better, this show gives you permission to have the difficult conversations that lead to breakthrough. Because "for time and all eternity" should feel epic, not exhausting.