
Jason Costain, founder of Javloc, joins us to discuss his 30 years of experience in fraud prevention and bank defense systems. Jason shares insights into the evolution of fraud, from early check scams to modern-day threats like voice deepfakes and machine learning-driven credit card fraud. He also highlights the UK's regulatory responses, the importance of customer education, and the role of technology in combating scams. Jason introduces Javloc's mission to help banks and companies enhance their scam defenses.Highlights Include:Early experiences with fraud and the evolution of scam tactics.The impact of real-time payments and internet banking on global fraud.UK regulatory measures like the voluntary refund code and consumer protection reforms.Advanced scam techniques, including voice deepfakes and machine learning.The role of banks in educating customers and implementing biometric security measures.Javloc's approach to advising organizations on fraud prevention.Pick of the Week:Steve Stonebraker - Real Dictators podcast.Jason Costain - Surrounded by Psychopaths by Thomas Erikson.Guest:Jason Costain - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-costain-b529746/Javloc - https://www.javloc.com/Links:Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.comSteve's Other Podcast: https://aolunderground.com/Brakertech LLC: https://brakertech.comGithub: https://github.com/ssstonebrakerSocial:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebrakerTwitter: https://twitter.com/brakertechCredits:Audio Editing by Sam Fox - [email protected]Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Mar 26, 2025
1 hr 21 min

Dr. Ethan Heilman, CTO of Bastion Zero, joins us to discuss the latest advancements in secure access technology and the ethical implications of AI systems. Dr. Heilman explains how Bastion Zero provides secure, passwordless access to servers, databases, and Kubernetes clusters without the need for VPNs or SSH keys. Key features include session recording, multi-factor authentication (MFA), and short-lived credentials to ensure robust security.
Highlights include:
Bastion Zero’s Approach to Secure Access:
Eliminates shared credentials by using SSL identities and MFA.
Enables real-time session monitoring and auditing.
Supports secure access for on-premises and cloud environments (AWS, GCP, etc.).
Introduces Split Cert, a multi-party computation (MPC) technique for generating secure, short-lived database credentials without single points of compromise.
Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and Kubernetes Access:
Pick of the Week:
Steve Stonebraker - The man who broke into Windsor Castle to assassinate the late Queen with a crossbow had discussed his plans with his AI chatbot girlfriend
Man Dies by Suicide After Talking with AI Chatbot, Widow Says
Ethan Heilman - A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry – A history blog offering in-depth, approachable explorations of historical topics.
Guest:
Dr. Ethan Heilman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethan-heilman-39896934/
BastionZero's website - https://www.bastionzero.com/
Video on how multiple MFA works with Bastion Zero - https://brakertech.com/aws-systems-manager-session-manager-on-steroids/
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Steve's Other Podcast: https://aolunderground.com/
Brakertech LLC: https://brakertech.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - [email protected]
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Jan 24, 2025
46 min

We dive deep into the evolution of neworks and security from early internet to today.
Mentioned in the show:Cyber Trust Mark
Pick of the Week:
Steve Stonebraker - The Artifice Girl
Jim Rigney - Healthy Gamer GG - "You Are Burned Out And Don't Even Know It"
Episode Show Notes:
Jim Rigney - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rigney/
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Steve's Other Podcast: https://aolunderground.com/
Brakertech LLC: https://brakertech.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - [email protected]
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Jan 5, 2024
56 min

Chat with Dan Nowak about threat intelligence, insider threats, deception techniques, intellectual property theft, Made in China 2025, Unlimited Warfare, the future of ransomware, and Defcon.
Pick of the Week:
Steve - The Americans
Dan - Meat Church Guys - The Whisky Bent Barbecue
Episode Show Notes:
Dan Nowak - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nowakdaniel/
Website: www.celsus.io
Substack: https://archetypesandobjectives.substack.com
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Steve's Other Podcast: https://aolunderground.com/
Brakertech LLC: https://brakertech.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - [email protected]
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Aug 19, 2023
1 hr 13 min

Chat with Matt Wright, Senior Security Engineer on Cloud Security Posture Management (CSPM), Attack Surface Management (ASM), Artificial Intelligence. We also cover some news, talk about zero days, and responsible disclosure
Episode Show Notes:
Matt Wright - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt1337/
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Brakertech LLC: https://brakertech.com
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - [email protected]
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Jun 28, 2023
30 min

Erci Stern tells us her origin story. We review in depth how she battled users that were uploading Warez on a customer's Anonymous FTP site and also hear a funny story about Slingo. She takes us through her entire career at AOL where she started in Site Reliability (Systems Administration/Operations), moving to Information Security/QA, and then went into project management. We also cover her life after AOL where she went back to System Administration and has been a champion of security along the way throughout her career. Other topics include Configuration Management, Security Certifications, passion projects, etc.. Erici also shares with us her experience mentoring at "Girls who Code" and advice for girls that want to go into IT.
Guest:
Erci Stern
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - @AOLUnderground @brakertech
Merch - https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop
Donate - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground
Contact the Host - https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/
Reconnect with old AOLers -
https://discord.gg/reaol
https://aolunderground.com/community/
Oct 5, 2022
1 hr 14 min

Surf Kahuna (Ryan Chapman) shares his origin story about a series of events that occurred on AOL that rocked his world and led him down the path of digital forensics. Then Steve and Ryan talk espionage, multiple Advanced Persistent Threats, retro gaming, password spraying, ransomware, and what has helped Ryan be successful in Infosec.
Guest: Surf Kahuna/Mac Diablo (Ryan Chapman)
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Ryan Chapman
Follow Ryan on Twitter - @rj_chap
Ryan's Blog - https://incidentresponse.training/
Author of SANS FOR528 "Ransomware for Incident Responders" - for528.com/course
Instructor of SANS FOR610: Reverse-Engineering Malware: Malware Analysis Tools and Techniques - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/reverse-engineering-malware-malware-analysis-tools-techniques/
Part of the @CactusCon crew - https://www.cactuscon.com/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - @AOLUnderground @brakertech
Merch - https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop
Donate - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground
Contact the Host - https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/
Reconnect with old AOLers -
https://discord.gg/reaol
https://aolunderground.com/community/
Jul 28, 2022
2 hr 10 min

Chat with Sandeep Lahane, CEO of Deepfence, on how ThreatStryker is changing the game for Cloud Workload Protection. We go deep in to the product's unique full SSL decryption and packet capture capability, identification of an organizations most vulnerable endpoints, and automated workflows to remediate compromised systems.
Episode Show Notes:
Sandeep Lahane - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandeep-lahane-b9520a4/
Deepfence - https://deepfence.io/
Review of Deepfence's sandbox environment - https://brakertech.com/deepfence-cloud-native-workload-protection-for-infosec-pros/
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Blog: https://brakertech.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Jun 15, 2022
48 min

Chat with Ryan Fried about being and adjunct professor in the Cyber Security space, being a virtual CISO and talking to executives, purple teaming, true positive security incidents, validating your controls and what you think you know, and Atomic Red Team.
Episode Show Notes:
Ryan Fried - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-fried-65747938/
Atomic Red Team - https://github.com/redcanaryco/atomic-red-team
Bloodhound - https://github.com/BloodHoundAD/BloodHound
Checkov - https://www.checkov.io/
Links:
Podcast Website: https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com
Blog: https://brakertech.com
Github: https://github.com/ssstonebraker
Social:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestonebraker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/brakertech
Credits:
Podcast edited and mastered by Charlie Clark, https://www.fiverr.com/chuckaudio
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
Jun 8, 2022
1 hr 6 min

Chat with Lisa Falzone and Michael Green of Athena Security
Athena Security focuses on Entryway Security - https://www.athena-security.com/
Guests
Michael Green, CEO and Co-Founder
Lisa Falzone, President and Co-Founder
Show Notes
https://ephemeralsecuritypodcast.com/athena-security/
Podcast edited and mastered by Charlie Clark, https://www.fiverr.com/chuckaudio
Intro music by Margo Stonebraker
May 16, 2022
33 min
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