How did you come about to working with narcissistic abuse victims, and what is your experience in helping them to recover? Dr BB asks her guest, Mr Dirk Willner, a clinical counsellor with pastoral care background.

Mr Dirk Willner is part of the 'Living Welll Counselling Group' operating in the Toowoomba Region, Queensland, Australia.  He comes to the filed of professional counsellors from a pastoral care background; having served as a full-time minister for over 30 years. Working with people, staff and volunteers in denominational organizations has given him a great deal of insight into the challenges facing church workers, pastors and college principlas on all aspects of leadership.  Adding post-graduation qualifications has allowed him to move into professional supervision as his main area of interest and support.  He is also an ACA member of the College of Supervisors.  Dirk is married to Penne, who is also a counsellor with a teaching background.  Together they have been the instigators and founders of the 'Living Well Counselling Group.'

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