We tend to be inclusive of groups that we're familiar with, issues we connect with. For people outside our everyday awareness, it's easy to fall into the trap of accidental exclusion.

So today I'm PodChatting with my Courage & Confidence Co-Author Justine Martin (that's the book that went to the OSCARS & we still can't believe it!!) I want to know, what are the more typical barriers that someone living with a disability faces in the everyday and how can we be more inclusive. And Justine was generous enough to tell me. Pure vulnerability & grace.

This chat was an eye opener for me. I hope it is for you too.

Find the show notes & links at cathnolan.com/11