Today we're joined by Michèle Phoenix, we talk through Grueling Glory, how it happened, and what the experience has been like. Christian talks through some rejections, some film festival updates, and the other projects. Mentioned on the podcast: "Radium Girls" Movie <a href= "https://www.netflix.com/title/81059876">https://www.netflix.com/title/81059876</a> "Fragments of Light" Book Trailer (Jeff Kurtenacker composed the accompaniment) <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl3jwCMgB_I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl3jwCMgB_I</a> "ALBERT - An Encounter in Normandy" Michèle's Video <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuI0WJ_I2Ao">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuI0WJ_I2Ao</a> "Bathtubs Over Broadway" Documentary <a href= "https://www.bathtubsoverbroadway.com/">https://www.bathtubsoverbroadway.com/</a> "The Movie Business Book" Textbook <a href= "https://www.routledge.com/The-Movie-Business-Book/Squire/p/book/9781138656291"> https://www.routledge.com/The-Movie-Business-Book/Squire/p/book/9781138656291</a> Check out Michèle Phoenix's website: <a href= "https://michelephoenix.com/">https://michelephoenix.com/</a> & Buy her book: <a href= "https://michelephoenix.com/fragments-of-light/">https://michelephoenix.com/fragments-of-light/</a>

Episode 150 | Production Team Talk for Grueling Glory

The craft and business of documentary filmmaking, from people who actually do it.

Documentary First is a weekly podcast for working and aspiring documentary filmmakers who want honest, in-depth conversations about how documentaries get funded, made, and seen. Listen Notes ranks the show in the top 5 percent of all podcasts worldwide.

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Christian hosts from inside the work, not from the sidelines. She has films in production right now, so she asks the questions a working documentary filmmaker actually needs answered, because she needs them answered too.

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