Digital Banking Podcast
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Cybersecurity and Payments: A Love-Hate Relationship with Thomas Müller
1 hour 33 minutes Posted Aug 8, 2025 at 4:00 pm.
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On this episode of the Digital Banking Podcast, Josh DeTar welcomed Thomas Müller, CEO and co-founder of Rivero, to discuss the connection between cybersecurity and payments. Müller’s background as a CISO provided a unique perspective, highlighting the human element in security breaches. He used real-world examples like account takeovers and policy bypasses to show how both technology and human actions affect security. DeTar and Müller discussed the challenge of building strong security progr...