When they decided to do a podcast together, Matt and Liam soon realised that they hadn't told each other the stories of their losses. 

In order to do the show justice, Matt and Liam would need to tell each other their stories but wanted to do so in a way that was authentic and meaningful. So, in real-time and for the first time, you'll hear Matt describe to Liam the tragic losses his wife, Lauren, and he has suffered. 

This episode may be upsetting for some people to listen to, so please do so in a way that works for you. 

A big thanks to Matt for sharing his family's journey and doing so in this way.