Curious Creatures
Curious Creatures
Lol Tolhurst & Budgie
Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen Fairies!
Intense but Brief!    Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser  Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins  Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key  Surely not - Australian rules football of course! Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs! 3 gigs a night and it all paid off Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo! Championing The Underdog! From Street fights to The Stage – Loyalty was demanded Peter was The Rock on which The Dead could Dance safely More Baptisms of Fire and Keeping the Money Tight Born to Drum or Drumming to be Born? The Beat Must Go On! Creating the Dance - We are The Disco Beat Clay Pots with Skin Heads – Got a Young Peter Hooked Lisa’s Percussion made Peter Heavier on The Drums 4AD had a Dead Drum Room – Wolfgang Press with Tom Jones. It’s Not Unusual to be Loved! Hairy Chested Medallion Man – Made us Determined to Change the World Conversations Never Heard – find Their Voice in the Present The Fallacy of Memory – Reveals the Duality of Events We are all of us Characters in Everyone’s stories! Back On The Bus Y’All – We’re Gearing up for The Road! ___ Respect: Wolfgang Preiss (27 February 1910 – 27 November 2002) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 18
37 min
Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!
Carpets and Bass Drums!    Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives We all took numbers, and we all took a Name  They were all unreadable when the next day Came  The Journey is The Thing! Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away The Highs and Lows that made it Work Difficult relationships created the Quirk!  The Bells are Ringing for me and My Pal! A Constant Support from the Chaos Outside The Rarity of Security was Peter’s Reality Thirty years of always being taken on a Ride  Had Lol and Budgie seeking a safe place to hide  Booking The Cooks!  What the world don’t know, won’t hurt ‘em They were TOO Good Looking for OUR own Good Cheek bones to Die for, and Handsome on the inside Dead Can Dance - Cooler than Frankenstein’s Bride! ___ Respect: Elsa Sullivan Lanchester (28 October 1902 – 26 December 1986) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 11
36 min
Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!
Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing!    Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We? When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality? Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story! Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE? How Do We keep Sane? Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet! We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee? Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home!  Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Faint Hearted! How Do We keep Healthy? The things you Find on Tour – and the Things you Don’t It’s 3rd Time Lucky to Discover All the Good Stuff Everyone’s Your Friend on Tour – Even the Ones who Aren’t Lydia Lunch & Marcy B Drive Lol down Sunset for Vitamin C Looking for Answers!  The bar behind the Stage - Was it at The Fenix? Fisherman’s Wharf or Pikes Place Market? Home of The Slugs and The Edgewater Inn? San Francisco 1995 and Courtney Blows up Lolapolooza! Information Overload - Upchuck! Wow did we play it So Fast? Why do we play it So Slow! Can we Find an Easier way to Do that? Orange sparkle Gretsch – Brass shells and 26” bass drums? We come full circle – we’re back to Drums – All Drummers are Friends!! ___ Respect: D. H. Peligro - (July 9, 1959 – October 28, 2022) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 4
39 min
Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In
Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up!    Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill, But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill? It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two! Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue! Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic! Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound Genesis and Focus on the Oval cricket ground Bow Bells are Ringing! Cheech of Chong made Lol an Angelino In the Biggest library in the Town of Televisino An unlikely meeting of Minds at the LA Forum Don’t tell Duff McKagan or even Matt Sorum Books Books Books!  When your whole life drifts like a Spirit in the Sky There’s no time left as Tears go By The second one’s needed, so no need to sell ‘em It’s a personal thing - it’s the way I tell ‘em Memory is Not an Exact Science! Don’t you Love me Baby? But you condensed my life into half a chapter! It probably didn’t fit the greater arc of the story It’s not what happens - it’s how you remember it. ___ Respect: Kevin ‘Geordie’ Walker (18 December 1958 – 26 November 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 31
38 min
Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire
Love it to Death!  Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo? All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna? Hey, What do You Do? What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all? When counting a song in, could make a heart stall It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board. How do You Stay Optimistic? Get yourself some Private Ai – become a Super-brain They’re all riding ticketless on a Berlin subway train The only way is Up – away from the Big Corps One potato, two potato, three potato, four Improvising with Fusion!  Recycling everything is the New Future Dream 100-year lightbulbs become like Peaches and Cream All we Need is Love and Reggie in the Race  We’re plotting our escape, to the much bigger place We All Love Collaboration! Music is the Victim – where does that leave us? Solo improvisation – Get the Room to lead us Music is the Funhouse of Mirrors and Smoke You feel it coz’ it’s the real thing – not a bottle of Coke! ___ Respect: Glen Edward Buxton (November 10, 1947 – October 19, 1997) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 21
31 min
Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers
Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany!    It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer! Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens! Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places Watch out for the Queens with that look on their faces  Rubber and Fetish was the dress code for sure The Batcave was entered through a coffin shaped door Number One in Heaven! Getting stabbed after 8 o’clock Sharp Underneath the Arches, where the shadows are Dark The footsteps behind you, one for fear, one for dread You had to have Eyes in the back of your head Montana Red Dog!  Soaking up the details in the cafes and bars Reggie heard all the languages beneath the stars Like a Teenager dreaming of the right words to use Montana was waiting for the sounds of the muse On The Road Again! Meeting all the Oddballs on the Road to Nowhere  Real time Evaporation in the Hotel Bar chair World Domination was a long way from Home We’re Back On the bus with Wet Bottom syndrome. ___ Respect: Wayne Stanley Kramer (April 30, 1948 – February 2, 2024)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 14
38 min
Curious Creatures Curious Quotations: Our Life in the Gush of Boasts!
1st Gush. It’s all Greek in Brackets. Tokyo in stereo to the spirit of Ghosts. The sample debate and the bones of contention continue. No loops or samples except of ourselves. We get going as human beatboxes.  2nd Gosh. Are drums electric? Are drummers eclectic? Voices on the Air? We got Wooden Teeth! Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you The Sonic Poem. We were Born to Funk! 3rd Push. Cold Sweat Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag and its only Rock & Roll but we like it.  Head on The Door’s Sang-witches make Boris and Lol seasick. Pure Gravitas to be Sure.  4th Bish. Steven King and The Langoliers help us grasp the Eternal Now. No Apologies for fading in and fading out. The Quantam Physics of it all. Bebe and Louis Barron on The Forbidden Planet.    5th Bash. Budgie gives Jimmy Page a day off. Luddites United aka The Cure FC. Budgie wears a Navy skipper’s hat with a hidden microphone. Long crescendo with a pause and a dying cello.  6th Bosh. She’s NOT my Dog. A Hungry Dog. The Analytical shall NOT trespass on the Creative. I think we Did – I think So - I think we Did – I think So - I think we Did – I think So! ___ Respect: Bebe Barron (June 16,1925 - April 20, 2008) and Louis Barron (April 23,1920 - Nov 1, 1989) ___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 7
32 min
Butch Vig Pt. 2: Fastest Blade in the West! ‘King of Tape Editing’
‘Butch - He got the Hooks!’ Topper Headon – He got the Grooves  Inspiration and Collaboration Clash! Butch got that magic Snare Fill! But our Hats go Off to Topper Headon! 'Butch as President of The Roxy Music fan club!’ King of the Fills? – Roxy’s Paul Thompson Caution the New drummer - Don’t Forget Those Hooks!! Phil Manzanera - a Guitarist on Fire But Bryan Ferry - the King of Cool.  ‘Meanwhile… Up in The Canyon’ Our Evening Star, became Another Green World  We talked about Food and our Favourite films with Jacknife But now we Gotta come out to Play When we get to reveal Our Undertaker Chic! ‘Early Garbage Live.’ ATTENTION: Drum Geek Area Ahead! The Garbage stage is Dead Quiet! How do we do what we do without any stage sound? Boom Ga-ka Boom-Ga! Just Don’t Scare the Orchestra! ‘Smashing The Crash!’ ATTENTION: Therapy Area Ahead! Playing Drums is Therapy? Does that sound really need to be there? Sharing those Crazy Studio Adventures! ‘It’s Happy Accident Time – Do not RFM’ Lol, where did that Note come from? Where does the Bollywood Crunch come from? It’s a Dub-Reggae playlist backstage for Garbage  Our New Band Name? - The 3am Insomniacs! ___ Respect: Kurt Cobain (February 20, 1967 – April 5, 1994) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 29
39 min
Butch Vig Pt 1: The Changing of The Guard From The Beatles, thru’ Teen Spirit, into Garbage
Bill or George, Anything but Sue! Clyde Stubblefield always arrived early Clyde made a so-so kit sound Great! How do the Greats sound the Way they Do? It’s all about Recognising the Good Mistakes! 3am Insomnia and the IQ Tour drop! Hey Butch, what’s on the Weather Channel tonight? How’s Your Bed of Nails this Evening? Shirley is a Natural Born Road Dog,  OMG, when the Catering is terrible - Luxury! Whilst Shirley was Doing the Dishes!  Butch arranged Tea at the London Ritz They talked about Food and Favourite films Butch heard about Kurt, the World Revolved, and in Flew Shirley 28 Years of Garbage and they’re Still having Fun! The Music Cycle Changes – but the Madness continues!  Hi-Hate-Us? Never, never, ever Stop! Commitments Outside the Band?  Stick with The Winners - We are the Basket Cases! Where’s The Referee? Ringo knew how to Wait! Edgar Winter is Lol’s God of the Stage  Timing is Crucial if You don’t wanna Wee wee-wee Lol warns, Careful where they Place your Bucket  Ginger keeps Jack Bruce waiting – Call of Nature!  When You Gotta go – You Gotta Go! Look out it’s Ginger Baker – Hellraiser! Budgie at the Bar with ACDC’s Chris Slade Ginger appears in Angel Wings - almost! Dapper Charlie Watts in the Coolest Threads We all loved Keith Moon – but there could only be One! ___ Respect: Clyde Austin Stubblefield (April 18, 1943 – February 18, 2017) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 22
40 min
Curious Questions: We are the Goon Squad and we're Coming to Town Beep-Beep!!!
Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?”  A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham. Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another time, another place.   Phase 3. In which Ms Morrissey is Queen of backstage and you’ll just have to wait.  Well excuse us for Breathing, say us Dudes in unison!  Phase 4. In which Leonard asks a bittersweet question. Are songs always what they seem? PJ Harvey said, most people think all her songs are auto biographical. Though she hasn’t drowned any babies recently. Phase 5. In which Sandrine asks, what’s that sound? Is it a Bird in a tree?  We’ve got a Harmoniser and we’re going to use it! The Godlike beauty of a few notes. PS: Leather does not like Humidity! Phase 6. In which The Cure and The Banshees played soccer after Elephant Fayre – True or False? Tom and Anton took our smudges! Budgie had proud moments on the Slits Cut. Lol had proud moments on The Top, but his drumming on Pornography takes the biscuit.  Together we’re most proud of our parts in our 3rd Act – with Jacknife Lee, on Los Angeles.  Phase 7. In which Henna asks, “Best LA memories?” The daily climb up Topanga. Freeways, Disney, Beaches, Cars. Yes, but there’s always something new. No sleep, big snakes, and spectacular people. Phase 8. In which Cambria asks, ‘What’s the biggest change?’ It may be our notion of time. We never stopped. It was the only life we knew. Today life is in session, and it’s FULL ON! Maybe, it was the restaurant menu. Maybe it was Denny’s. Maybe it was the all-day Breakfast! Genesis to Revelations. Long drives and Heaven at 4am! The Cure shake their booty to The Village People – The Banshees play Paintball in Freemantle! Phase 9. In which we pay attention. To what we like. To our influences. To our origins not being geographical. To the Magnetism. To the Bits that shouldn’t fit, that just Do! To Being Sound Carriers. In Life’s Beautiful Tapestry ___ Respect: Damo (Kenji) Suzuki (ダモ鈴木), (16 January 1950 – 9 February 2024) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 15
51 min
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