The ICCT Podcast
The ICCT Podcast
International Centre for Counter-Terrorism
The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (ICCT) is a think-and-do tank based in The Hague, Netherlands. We provide research, policy advice, training and other solutions to support better counter-terrorism policies and practices worldwide. We also contribute to the scientific and public debates in the fields of counter-terrorism and countering violent extremism, notably through our publications and events.
Episode 4: The United States' changing approach to Counter-Terrorism with Daniel L. Byman
“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers. In our fourth episode we speak to Daniel L. Byman, senior fellow at the Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings and professor at the Georgetown University Walsh School of Foreign Service's Security Studies Program.  Daniel discusses his career, the United States' shift away from international counter-terrorism in favour of domestic counter-terrorism, the rise of white nationalist terrorism in the US, how institutional failures can lead to radicalisation, if these issues are being addressed effectively, the role of China and Russia, what needs to be done by the US and lessons learned from his work. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager.
May 10, 2023
21 min
Episode 3: China's Approach to Countering Terrorism with Raffaello Pantucci
“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers. In our third episode, we speak to Raffaello Pantucci, Senior Fellow in the International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research (ICPVTR) at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) in Singapore, and Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) in London. Raffaello talks about his own professional journey, how events like the Afghanistan withdrawal and the war on Ukraine have impacted Chinese counter-terrorism, China’s involvement with Afghanistan and Pakistan, his view on Chinese intelligence and their domestic CT policies and if China is trying to change the norms of international CT.
May 3, 2023
31 min
Episode 2: The End of a Western-Dominated Global CT Agenda? With Marc Hecker
“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers. In our second episode, we speak with Marc Hecker, Director of Research and Communications and the Editor-in-Chief of the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI). Marc Hecker discusses his own professional journey in the field of counter-terrorism, the history of the twenty year global war on terror, whether we’ve reached the end of a Western global CT agenda, France and the Sahel region, the Wagner group and the future of European values in CT. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager.
Apr 26, 2023
36 min
Episode 1: The Impact of Great Power Politics on the United Nation's Counter-Terrorism Strategy with Naureen Fink
“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers. In our first episode, we speak to Naureen Fink, the executive director for the Soufan centre, who previously worked as a Senior Policy Adviser on Counterterrorism and Sanctions at the United Kingdom’s Mission to the United Nations. Naureen Fink discusses how the change in global power dynamics has changed the UN’s CT agenda, the fragmentation of the international community, how international organizations can continue to advance Human Rights and Rule of Law compliance and the future role for European values within the UN. Interviewing her is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager. 
Apr 19, 2023
22 min
Episode 7: Counter-Terrorism and Women's Rights with Amb. Roya Rahmani
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Ambassador Roya Rahmani, Afghan diplomat, and the first woman to serve as the Afghan ambassador to the United States and Indonesia. In this interview, Amb. Rahmani will be discussing her experiences as a diplomat, her critical work promoting women's rights globally, and what the future holds for Afghanistan. Interviewing her is Dr. Joana Cook, an ICCT Senior Project Manager and Editor-in-Chief of the ICCT Journal. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Dec 14, 2021
42 min
Episode 6: Counter-Terrorism, Civil Liberties, and National Security with Hina Shamsi
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Hina Shamsi, Director of the ACLU's National Security Project. This interview examines how civil liberties and human rights fit into the framework of national security, their intersections with counter-terrorism, as well as providing insight into how these elements have changed over the past twenty years. Interviewing her is Dr. Rumyana van Ark, a Research Fellow and Coordinator at the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Nov 16, 2021
32 min
Episode 5: Counter-Terrorism and International Diplomacy with Amb. Janet Alberda
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Ambassador Janet Alberda, who is currently serving as Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In this interview, Amb. Alberda discusses the effects of counter-terrorism policies on international diplomacy, her experiences working in the Middle East after 9/11, and what obstacles the global community faces moving forwards. Interviewing her is Teun van Dongen, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Current and Emerging Threats at ICCT. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Nov 2, 2021
35 min
Episode 4: Counter-Terrorism Developments and Future Directions with Tom Parker
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Tom Parker, author of "Avoiding the Terrorist Trap: Why Respecting Human Rights is the Key to Defeating Terrorism". This interview explores the different historical manifestations of counter-terrorism, how these patterns shifted after 9/11, and why its future is firmly grounded in human rights. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, who at the time of recording was ICCT's Interim Director. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Oct 12, 2021
56 min
Episode 3: Counter-Terrorism and the War on Terror with Bruce Hoffman
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Bruce Hoffman, Professor of Security Studies at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow for counter-terrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations. This interview examines how counter-terrorism has evolved over the last 45 years, the impacts of 9/11, and the future of the Global War on Terror. Interviewing him is Julie Coleman, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead of the Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) programme at ICCT. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Sep 29, 2021
32 min
Episode 2: Counter-Terrorism and Human Rights with Fionnuala Ní Aoláin
Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Today, ICCT is speaking to Fionnuala Ní Aoláin, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms while Countering Terrorism. This interview explores critical human rights and global challenges related to counter-terrorism, and how they have changed after 9/11.  Interviewing her is Tanya Mehra, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Rule of Law Responses to Terrorism at ICCT. Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!
Sep 21, 2021
32 min
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