In this episode I have a conversation with a friend that has been a professional music producer and song writer in the industry for about 15 years. As consumers, we often have a warped view of what it is like to be a creative and in doing so we often strip them of their humanity and treat them as a product. I wanted to know from the artist standpoint, what are the things they wish consumers considered. We get to talk about longevity in the industry, the power of music, how fans can suck, and how hard it is to have create stability.