Adena interviews Rosemary Mackay, a naval engineer, about granny panties at sea, Rosemary's mother feeling she only had the options of wife, nurse, or hooker before going into the Navy Reserve, the bad omen of Adena getting whipped in the head with a plug her first day on the job, Rosemary starting her own business, and more. Conversations With Men I Wish I Never Had is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Executive produced by Adena Grundy. Story Producer: Natasha Stephan. Produced and edited by Dan Benamor and Sameena Mustafa. Original theme by Derlis Gonzalez. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you're listening. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adena interviews Sara Devlin, Assistant Program Manager for Naval Sea Systems Command. They discuss the way in which women and men are perceived differently when doing their jobs passionately, the "good guy" rationalization, and the myth of hard work leading to results for women in the workplace. Conversations With Men I Wish I Never Had is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Executive produced by Adena Grundy. Story Producer: Natasha Stephan. Produced and edited by Dan Benamor and Sameena Mustafa. Original theme by Derlis Gonzalez. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you're listening. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adena and her guest, Navy Lieutenant Commander Angelita Noche, discuss how life on a ship can feel like a bar in New York at four am, and how women at sea suppress or express their femininity. Conversations With Men I Wish I Never Had is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Executive produced by Adena Grundy. Story Producer: Natasha Stephan. Produced and edited by Dan Benamor and Sameena Mustafa. Original theme by Derlis Gonzalez. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you're listening. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who is Adena? This episode details who Adena Grundy is, what her lifetime of experiences in male-dominated industries has been, how she got into merchant and naval service, what it's like to be either the only or one of two women on a crew of twenty plus men alone at sea, how pregnancy decision-making intersects with career ambition, and why she is doing this podcast. Conversations With Men I Wish I Never Had is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel, Robert Mitas, and Dan Benamor. Executive produced by Adena Grundy. Story Producer: Natasha Stephan. Produced and edited by Dan Benamor and Sameena Mustafa. Original theme by Derlis Gonzalez. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you're listening. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices