In Proverbs 16:4, what is the day of trouble? from Conversations in Calvinism

In Proverbs 16:4, what is the day of trouble?

1 hour 5 minutes Posted Aug 7, 2021 at 12:30 am.

, which seems to indicate God forms plans within man’s heart by saying “the preparation of the heart in man…is from the Lord” compared to the ESV which seems to indicate men make their own plans by saying “the plans of the heart belong to man”.  We concurred that Proverbs 16:4 seems to imply God has a pre-creation plan for wicked people although we noted an Open Theist reading might be like “if someone becomes wicked, I will punish them”.  

“The great God who formed all things both rewardeth the fool and rewardeth transgressors.” (KJV) compared to “Like an archer who wounds everyone is one who hires a passing fool or drunkard.” (ESV)

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Turretinfan and I disconcurred on God’s creating the wicked for the day of trouble is God’s reprobation of individuals to hell or God’s arranging disasters like Job’s or like wicked nations attacking Israel. We discussed the KJV on Proverbs

We also briefly discussed the radical translation difference for Proverbs 26:10 “The great God who formed all things both rewardeth the fool and rewardeth transgressors.” (KJV) compared to “Like an archer who wounds everyone is one who hires a passing fool or drunkard.” (ESV)

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