Sam Sawyer, founder and CEO of Pinnacle Realty Advisors, and I take time from the Hub event to chat about his subscription-based brokerage, the commission split gray area, selling his last company to Compass, building a brokerage app store, having a new school model with old school value, being a profitable unicorn, the real estate software arms race, and keeping your head out of the sand.

Joe Rath, Redfin's Senior Director of Brokerage Ops and Head of Industry Relations, and I chat about coffee subscriptions, the mother of all metrics, thinking small, the power of consistency, 100% tech adoption, the "your listing, your lead" counterfactual, the industry's most effective technology, issuing press releases when shutting down products, and being a good MLS partner.

Lacey Conway, CEO of Latter & Blum, and I discuss New Orleans coffee, incumbents going extinct, calculated gambles, acquiring a challenger brand, MLS innovation, power steering & lane assist, the fiefdoms of the status quo, and what she's learned from listening to this podcast.

Scott Trench, CEO of BiggerPockets, and I bust myths about the U.S. rental market and the prevalence of institutional investors, dig into the minds of 17 million mom-and-pop investors, and discuss dance parties, opportunity through inefficiency, investor demographics, why tech isn't adopted, opportunities for investor-friendly agents, and the financial benefits of house hacking.

Chris Kelly, EVP at HomeServices of America, and I discuss the challenge of incumbency, why attaching mortgage is hard, Homes.com vs. Zillow, how NAR can improve, leading with transparency, the benefits of not being a tech company, why real estate is like farming, and the unintended consequences of the commission lawsuits.

Orly and I discuss the upcoming Real Estate Innovation Hub, a new event I'm hosting in Boulder, CO. As an attendee, Orly discusses why she applied, the benefit of collaborating with nine other industry leaders, which business challenges she wants to unpack, the intersection of tech + humanity, how demographics are impacting her business, and why she would invite the goddess of war and strategy to be an attendee.

David Mele, president of Homes.com, and I discuss Dunkin Donuts coffee, post-acquisition growth, lead gen hell, the 97% opportunity, innovator's dilemma, exclusive content, strategic clarity, what's in Andy's head, and what he would do if he were Zillow's CEO.

Dan Duffy, CEO of United Real Estate Group, and I discuss United's quiet growth story, agent migration, fancy-pants MBAs, M&A breakage, the 3 attributes of a successful partner, cultural incongruity, CEO scar tissue, positive disruption, founder equity, Calvinball, and minding the value gap.

Glenn Sanford, CEO and founder of eXp Realty, and I discuss morning rituals, the push/pull of a down market, where ideas originate, game-changing tech, going against conventional wisdom, the power of pure-plays, overcoming a crisis of confidence, the sell-side pivot, and how to screw anything up.

Robert Reffkin, CEO and founder of Compass, and I discuss caffeination strategies, connectivity > productivity, how Compass became #1, learnings about building tech, 3 things agents care about most, what makes smart people stupid, sending messages back in time, and culture as a competitive advantage.