Robin continues her conversation with Holly and JJ in this Part Two “Coming Out Late & Trans” episode on the Coming Out Late podcast. about what it means to be transgender, the challenges of navigating relationships and gender reassignment, and why being honest with yourself and embracing who you are should always come first.In this episode, you will learn…What does it mean to be transgender?The challenges of navigating relationships.Should you or shouldn’t you? Gender reassignment is the question.Encouragement to be open to possibilities when it comes to your sexualityThe joy of transitioning and being accepted for who you truly areThe importance of being upfront about your identity after you come outAdvice for those worried about coming out to lean into your authentic selfEverybody’s body is different, medical support is crucial for your transition journey  Links to Resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.BUY ME A COFFEE:Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassSUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thursday Evening8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE:December 4, 18JJ (Jessica Jarrard), Licensed Mental Health Counselor. Owner of Rainbow Counseling & Consultation, a group private practice serving the LGBTQ community. www.rainbowcounselingservices.com

Robin talks with Holly and JJ about what it means to be transgender, the challenges of navigating relationships and gender reassignment, and why being honest with yourself and embracing who you are should always come first.In this episode, you will learn…Holly’s experience of feeling like a prisoner in her body and what it means to be transgenderThe importance of a supportive and accepting environment for transgender childrenBeing in a double-closet and underdressing to alleviate pain of gender dysphoriaUnderstanding which terms represent gender identityHolly’s heterosexual relationships and feeling like an imposterWhat it was like for Holly to finally come out as transgender at age 50Gender reassignment and gender affirmation surgeriesReflecting on coming out: Don’t worry about the reaction of others, fear manifests in many ways, don’t try to hide it because it’s not going to changeEncouragement to be open to possibilities when it comes to your sexualityThe joy of transitioning and being accepted for who you truly areThe importance of being upfront about your identity after you come outAdvice for those worried about coming out to lean into your authentic selfEverybody’s body is different, medical support is crucial for your transition journey  Links to Resources:JJ (Jessica Jarrard), Licensed Mental Health Counselor. Owner of Rainbow Counseling & Consultation, a group private practice serving the LGBTQ community. www.rainbowcounselingservices.comPRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.BUY ME A COFFEE:Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassSUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE:November 6, 20; December 4, 18

In this replay of episode #55, Robin introduces us to one of her listeners, Michelle, hailing all the way from Australia. Struck by a note she received from Michelle, Robin knew she had to share it with her listener’s, with Michelle’s consent of course. Robin also knew that the impact of Michelle’s words and all the sentiment behind them would be better spoken by Michelle herself. Michelle agreed and read her own letter, aloud to us.This episode touches upon topics which get us thinking about . . .The universal nature of coming out late, no matter where in the world we live.The effect of women in non-traditional, but male-dominated occupations.Is it a woman’s responsibility to help make a man feel ‘whole’ if he feels emasculated or threatened by a woman?Being with men, cutting off bits of myself and making myself smaller in order that they would feel like men.Many of the late in life stories include complex arrangements and rearrangements of marriages and courageous and challenging journeys. This guest doesn’t have children, and is not married.There is more to “identity” than just our sexuality.A life lived out of other people's expectations is a life dominated by fear and resentment.Am I an “L”? A “B”? Or maybe a “P”? Do we need labels?Do I now need to dress differently and wear beanies?Which life-lived is my real reality? Everything feels completely flipped upside-down, or sideways, or completely averse.Sexual identity versus cultural conditioning; internalized homophobia, people pleasing and the female anatomy.It seemed that the rainbow world offered many possibilities for stepping out of one cage and into another.Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLinks to Resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.BUY ME A COFFEE:Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassSUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:EVERY Monday Evening - 75 minutes.8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE: November 20; December 4, 18

In this episode, Robin invites Samantha Fox back to her Show. Samantha is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist AND Lesbian Curiosity Coach. Today, they talk about the dynamic flow of our sexual attraction and desires…and SO much more!In this episode, you will learn…What is a stone-top? A stone-bottom? A switchy? And why is it important to know what YOU are?What it means to pick the best ‘external partner’ versus the best ‘internal partner’.How does ‘compulsory heterosexuality’ affect how we feel about our own sexual energy? What does society teach us to think and feel?That there really are lots of ways to be a sexual human.To think about, “...What am I attracted to? Androgynous women? Women with masc-energy? Women with fem-energy? Something in between?”Why “vulnerability” is vital to great a great flow of sexual energy between you and your partner.Why communicating about your sexual desires with your partner is critical to a healthy sex life.That sexual energy and sexual desire shouldn’t be “heavy” topics; have fun, play, experiment and explore these sides of you.The importance of doing the work on ourselves regarding “internalized homophobia”!Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation for all the time and love and energy she pours into our Community. Any and all donations are deeply, deeply appreciated!!  Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass Links to resources:SAMANTHA FOX:Website: https://www.curiousquestioningandcomingout.comTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lesbiancuriositycoachInstagram:  https://www.instagram.com/lesbiancuriositycoach/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugZWOUuPKEtdXQndioSbYQCOMING OUT LATE FB GROUP:Join our private FB Group: Coming Out Late Community at:www.facebook.com/groups/comingoutlatecommunity/WWW.BUYMEACOFFEE.COMWanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider 'buying me a coffee' as a sign of appreciation. Any and all donations are deeply, deeply appreciated!!  Simply go to:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass

In this episode, Robin invites Samantha Fox back to her Show. Samantha is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist AND Lesbian Curiosity Coach. Today, they talk about the dynamic flow of our sexual attraction and desires…and SO much more!In this episode, you will learn…What IS “dynamic flow”?How does dynamic flow affect my sexual attraction and desires?What is YOUR sexual energy? And why is sexual energy important?What is a stone-top? A stone-bottom? A switchy? And why is it important to know what YOU are?What it means to pick the best ‘external partner’ versus the best ‘internal partner’.How does ‘compulsory heterosexuality’ affect how we feel about our own sexual energy? What does society teach us to think and feel?That there really are lots of ways to be a sexual human.To think about, “...What am I attracted to? Androgynous women? Women with masc-energy? Women with fem-energy? Something in between?”Why “vulnerability” is vital to great a great flow of sexual energy between you and your partner.Why communicating about your sexual desires with your partner is critical to a healthy sex life.That sexual energy and sexual desire shouldn’t be “heavy” topics; have fun, play, experiment and explore these sides of you.The importance of doing the work on ourselves regarding “internalized homophobia”!Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation for all the time and love and energy she pours into our Community. Any and all donations are deeply, deeply appreciated!!  Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass Links to resources:SAMANTHA FOX:Website: https://www.curiousquestioningandcomingout.comTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lesbiancuriositycoachInstagram:  https://www.instagram.com/lesbiancuriositycoach/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugZWOUuPKEtdXQndioSbYQCOMING OUT LATE FB GROUP:Join our private FB Group: Coming Out Late Community at:www.facebook.com/groups/comingoutlatecommunity/WWW.BUYMEACOFFEE.COMWanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider 'buying me a coffee' as a sign of appreciation. Any and all donations are deeply, deeply appreciated!!  Simply go to:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass

In this week’s episode, Robin talks about the keys to living a serene and fulfilling life. Robin puts on her philosophical beret and covers topics such as “acceptance”, “surrendering”, “expectations” and “letting go” and what in the world does that have to do with coming out late?Give yourself permission to ‘think’ and ‘do’ differently; because we can!Nothing changes if nothing changes.We ALWAYS have options and choices to ‘think’ and ‘do’ differently.It’s how we respond to adversity, to challenge, that defines our character.We must accept we have no control over people, places, things & situations.The key to life, to serenity, and to living a fulfilled life is ACCEPTANCE.We learn how to accept by learning how to surrender; we learn how to surrender by learning how to LET GO.We need to learn how to let go of - and live free-from - ‘desired outcomes’ and ‘expectations’.The myth about chasing ‘ideal outcomes’. What’s the probability of catching our ‘desired outcomes’? What’s the cost of chasing our desired outcomes?We’re not in the CONTROL business - that’s codependency’s job!Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLinks to Resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.BUY ME A COFFEE:Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassSUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135WOMEN LOVING WOMEN SUPPORT GROUP:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Fifty Plus & Fabulous),6pm PST / 9pm EST, in Zoom. Via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/141783FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE:October 23; November 6, 20; December 4, 18

This week Robin continues her conversation with the late bloomers from her most recent Coming Out Late Retreat to Traverse City, MI. As you’ll be able to glean from the banter, this group has grown quite close to one another, had a GREAT time, and shared a lot of very special moments and memories. Many who attended have later shared with Robin that their Retreat experience was life-changing for them. That makes my heart sing! I know this Coming Out Late Retreat had an enormous impact on ME as well!Robin’s Coming Out Late Support Groups and Retreats are quickly becoming one of the fastest ways to make new friends and build your community and tribe within this fast-growing late blooming sector of the LGBTQ+ community. Over seventy-five percent of the Phoenix Retreat attendees made their way to Michigan to attend the Coming Out Late Traverse City Retreat. Keep an eye out in Robin’s “Coming Out Late” FB Group for announcements regarding upcoming Retreats in 2024.Feeling seen and being heard.Deep conversations, vulnerable shares, laughing & shenanigan’s in a safe space is all a part of coming INTO ourselves!So many “firsts” and so many more to come!Learning and practicing the fine art of flirting, (from 2 very different approaches)!Nearly 25 late blooming strangers met in Michigan & had the time of their lives.Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLinks to Resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.BUY ME A COFFEE:Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassSUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135WOMEN LOVING WOMEN SUPPORT GROUP:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Fifty Plus & Fabulous),6pm PST / 9pm EST, in Zoom. Via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/141783FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE:October 23; November 6, 20; December 4, 18

This week Robin invites the attendees from her most recent Traverse City, MI Retreat to come on the show and share their enthusiasm and experiences. Robin’s Coming Out Late Support Groups and Retreats are quickly becoming one of the fastest ways to make new friends and build your community and tribe within this fast-growing late blooming sector of the LGBTQ+ community. Over seventy-five percent of the Phoenix Retreat attendees made their way to Michigan to attend the Coming Out Late Traverse City Retreat. Keep an eye out in Robin’s “Coming Out Late” FB Group for announcements regarding upcoming Retreats in 2024.The magic of vulnerability.Building new friendships in our 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and 60’s.Experiencing our true selves when we feel safe, seen and supported.Nearly 25 late blooming strangers meet in Michigan and have the time of their lives.Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLinks to Resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.SUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135WOMEN LOVING WOMEN SUPPORT GROUP:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Fifty Plus & Fabulous),6pm PST / 9pm EST, in Zoom. Via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/141783FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.9:00pm EST / 6:00pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736MEETING SCHEDULE:September 11, 25; October 9, 23; November 6, 20; December 4, 18

Robin shares details about her online support group “Women Loving Women”. She also dives into the powerful responses she received after posing the question “What do you wish you knew then that you’ve known now on your journey” to the women of the group.In this episode, you will learn…You can take care of yourself—you can do hard things.Fear of the unknown is the common thread that holds so many back in life.Finding the inner strength to say “Yes, I’m gay” and learning to trust yourself.There’s nothing better than living your truth.Coming out is not horrible and difficult for everyone.Feel the freedom of coming out to yourself—You don't really need to know 100% with certainty that you for sure are gay and you're coming out as gay. Just give yourself permission to explore those thoughts.Live your life and find your truth. To support Robin & Hugo, go to: www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLinks to resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.SUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135WOMEN LOVING WOMEN SUPPORT GROUP:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Fifty Plus & Fabulous),6pm PST / 9pm EST, in Zoom. Via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/141783FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.9:00pm EST / 6:00pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5MEETING SCHEDULE:September 11, 25; October 9, 23; November 6, 20; December 4, 18https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736

In this episode, Robin reads a post written by a member of her “Coming Out Late” community about feeling stuck and sad while in the beginning stage of the messy middle. Robin also shares with us the outpouring of beautiful and practical support and encouragement. Grab your pen and paper because you are going to want to write down some of the really useful suggestions, as well as some of the poignant positive affirmations that the authors’ responders shared with her.In this episode, you will learn…The necessity of taking care of yourself first during this time of coming out.Why it is critically important during this journey to always protect yourself first.The importance of setting goals and making lists and why you should start with small goals for yourself first.That by setting goals and achieving them, no matter how small they are (and the smaller the better in the beginning), you will begin to feel a lot less stuck!That now is a good time to go back to school or obtain additional training so that you make yourself more marketable when seeking employment.That you need to become as financially literate as possible; and open up a separate bank account, (in your name only), in a different banking institution from any joint accounts you share with your partner.The importance of seeking 2-3 free consultations from a few different divorce lawyers - with the sole purpose of knowing and understanding what your legal rights are for the particular state you reside in.Seek therapy, (a queer therapist if possible), and encourage your partner to seek his own therapist as well.That crying and breathing - as much as you can - really IS therapeutic!That by staying committed to “kindness”, you and your partner have a better chance of going through this journey amicably and communicate effectively.That every day will come with its different feelings and those will change constantly. It is OK to feel however you’re feeling in that moment and the importance of ‘feeling ALL the feels’.Links to resources:PRIVATE ONE-on-ONE COACHING w/ROBIN DOUGLASSStruggling to make sense-of and MANAGE this new aspect of your COMING OUT LATE life? Then send me an email and request my 1:1 Coaching Information Sheet. It really does make a BIG difference to have someone like myself who ‘gets you’ and who has been through it. Email me at [email protected] for my Coaching Info Sheet.SUPPORT GROUPS:THE NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP:Wednesdays, 12:30pm EST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93135WOMEN LOVING WOMEN SUPPORT GROUP:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Fifty Plus & Fabulous),6pm PST / 9pm EST, in Zoom. Via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/141783FIFTY PLUS & FABULOUS:Every OTHER Thurs. Evening, (alternating w/Women Loving Women),8pm EST / 5pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/93024MESSY MIDDLE MONDAY:Every OTHER Monday Evening - 75 minutes.9:00pm EST / 6:00pm PST, in Zoom, via Buy Me A Coffee, $5MEETING SCHEDULE:September 11, 25; October 9, 23; November 6, 20; December 4, 18https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736