Come Get Your White People
Come Get Your White People
Wanda Swan
"Come Get Your White People" is a podcast for the change agent at their wit's end. You're dedicated to dismantling White Supremacy, but tired of arguing with your loved ones, friends, neighbors, strangers at the gas station, and damn near everyone else about the fact that anti-Blackness is a REAL thing. Your effort seems to be in vain and you're running out of arguments and fire, right? GOOD. Your arguments sucked anyway. No shade...slight shade. How do I know? Because I'm an anti-oppressive coach who has spent the past 15 years standing in rooms making liberation a tangible goal for thousands of White-identified and White-assimilated folx. I've heard every counter-argument there is and I've crushed them all. Let me guide you to better language and compelling arguments for a better world. Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Follow @startbytaking on Instagram and Facebook
165: Why Is Your God So Small?
Religion in this country is generally separated by race and Wanda asks about your God. A liberatory God is a big God, a God that is too big to fit inside of Whiteness. So consider what you believe about your God and the message you receive from your church.   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Jan 21
46 min
164: If You See Somebody Stealing, Bitch, No You Didn't, Part 2
This episode is a continuation of the conversation started in the last episode. Wanda reiterates how poverty is used to sustain oppression and shares what you can do to take action against it. Please see the list of resources below. Food Feeding America's food bank locator: https://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank FoodPantries.org and AmpleHarvest.org for local produce and pantry lists. 211 (United Way's helpline) - local food aid and housing resources.     Community Fridges and Mutual Aid https://mutualaidhub.org   Summer EBT and Community Eligibility Provision No Kid Hungry text line: text "Food" or "Comida" to 304-304   Financial Support modestneeds.org findhelp.org   Utility LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program) for energy bills: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/low-income-home-energy-assistance-program-liheap Affordable Connectivity Program for reduced-cost internet: https://www.fcc.gov/acp   Mental Health and Dignity Resources 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline   https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/   Mental health support centering marginalized folx Therapy for Black Girls at https://therapyforblackgirls.com/ The Loveland Foundation at https://thelovelandfoundation.org/ Inclusive Therapists at https://www.inclusivetherapists.com/   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Nov 12, 2025
30 min
163: If You See Somebody Stealing, Bitch, No You Didn't, Part 1
Wanda discusses the current government shutdown and how it affects SNAP benefits. We are reminded that poverty is not a character flaw. Come back next week for the rest of this conversation, including an overview of the list of resources below. Food Feeding America's food bank locator: https://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank FoodPantries.org and AmpleHarvest.org for local produce and pantry lists. 211 (United Way's helpline) - local food aid and housing resources.     Community Fridges and Mutual Aid https://mutualaidhub.org   Summer EBT and Community Eligibility Provision No Kid Hungry text line: text "Food" or "Comida" to 304-304   Financial Support modestneeds.org findhelp.org   Utility LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program) for energy bills: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/low-income-home-energy-assistance-program-liheap Affordable Connectivity Program for reduced-cost internet: https://www.fcc.gov/acp   Mental Health and Dignity Resources 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline   https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/   Mental health support centering marginalized folx Therapy for Black Girls at https://therapyforblackgirls.com/ The Loveland Foundation at https://thelovelandfoundation.org/ Inclusive Therapists at https://www.inclusivetherapists.com/   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Nov 7, 2025
41 min
162: Life is Hard Right Now. Are you OK?
*TRIGGER WARNING* This episode contains content about suicide that may be triggering for some individuals. Listen with care.   We're living in a really hard time, and some folx are feeling it more than others. There is a lot going on in the world today so be sure to check on yourself and your people. We are going to have to depend on each other to survive.   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Oct 3, 2025
40 min
161: Charlie Kirk, Chile...
Wanda talks about Charlie Kirk, focusing on 4 specific points. White Supremacy doesn't love anybody, even the people it gives allowances to. If you are in alignment with White Supremacy there's always a chance it will harm you next.   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Sep 19, 2025
1 hr 9 min
160: Lead The Shift, Part 3: Build Accountability Into Leadership
To complete this series on Lead The Shift™, Wanda talks about what accountability in leadership actually looks like, and how organizations can build systems that last.   Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Sep 10, 2025
1 hr 14 min
159: Lead The Shift, Part 2: Culture Eats Policy: What Happens When Orgs Don't Address Harm
Wanda goes deeper into the discussion of Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's new licensing program. She shares how organizations typically handle "harm" in ways that protect the institution, not the people who have been harmed. Learn about the real cost of harm and what leaders can do for true organizational change.   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Aug 27, 2025
20 min
158: Ready To Lead The Shift? Part 1
Wanda talks about Start By Talking's new licensing program, Lead The Shift™. In this episode, and over the course of the next few episodes, you'll learn why this program was built and what you can do to build an anti-oppressive culture in your organization that actually lasts.   Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute   Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Aug 20, 2025
32 min
157: Racism Is Expensive
Wanda discusses Return to the Land, a group of White Supremacists with a plan to build a Whites-only community in Arkansas. Hear Wanda's reaction to this, and her prediction about the group and the community they want to establish.   Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Aug 8, 2025
43 min
156: Is It A Male Loneliness Epidemic or Is It Just White Supremacy?
Wanda shares a story and discusses the "male loneliness epidemic." She explains how White Supremacy reaches everything and the ways that Black Women are disproportionately affected.   Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to [email protected]
Aug 1, 2025
40 min
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