It's time for another great fun appearance on Jordan and Nathan's podcast, Challenge the Standard.

We cover it all!

- The progress of Gravamen

- Intersectionality

- The value of community

- Sponsoring a sports team

- The worst tech stuff up CACN has encountered!

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You can find the Challenge the Standard podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/challenge-the-standard-in-financial-advice/id1725733771