Clinical PT Talks
Clinical PT Talks
Dr. Mark White, PT, DPT, BA, OCS
Clinical PT Talks offers physical therapy tips, pointers, how-to, and stories about unique, important, or transformative clinical cases. Clinical PT Talks is a mix of Podcast Shorts that provide brief, user-friendly and easily digestible bits of useful information that clarify concepts, illustrate problems to be solved, and offers solutions to issues physical therapists, and physical therapy assistants, deal with every day. Here you will also find longer Stories that highlight a variety of critical processes in dealing with patients in distress in the real world. Some stories need to be told because they can shift our perspective in ways that are useful. Often, this is of equal or greater value than what can be obtained in any other way.
The measurement problem in physical therapy: Part 1
A measurement problem exists in the world of physical therapy. In some ways it is subtle, almost unrecognizable, yet pervasive. In others ways, it is clearly structural and perpetuated by systems that diminish or misunderstand its value. Both are harmful to our profession, and to patients. Join me in this 2-part podcast series as I explore what the problem is, how we got here, and what we should do about it.   REFERENCES Kristal A, Gaunaurd IA, Morgan SJ, et al. Use of standardized outcome measures among physical therapists in the United States: A cross-sectional survey study. PLoS One. 2025;20(8):e0330528. Published 2025 Aug 20. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0330528  McCambridge AB, Nasser AM, Mehta P, Stubbs PW, Verhagen AP. Has Reporting on Physical Therapy Interventions Improved in 2 Decades? An Analysis of 140 Trials Reporting on 225 Interventions. J Orthop Sports Phys Ther. 2021;51(10):503-509. doi:10.2519/jospt.2021.10642 Pires D, Cruz EB, Gomes LA, Nunes C. How Do Physical Therapists Measure Treatment Outcomes in Adults With Chronic Low Back Pain? A Systematic Review. Phys Ther. 2020;100(6):1020-1034. doi:10.1093/ptj/pzaa030 [This study reports spinal mobility is assessed in only 31.8% of studies, and muscle strength and endurance in only 26.7%. Furthermore, measurement targets and tools are not standardized. These findings and more reflect my own observations.]
May 14
30 min
The fallacy of n-of-1 thinking. How it limits your ability to improve as a clinician, and what to do instead.
Physical therapists love to report the wonderful results they have achieved with their patients. And rightly so. Singular cases stand out. The clinician is happy, the patient is happy, and sharing success with colleagues, patients, and anyone who will listen is fun and can be informative. Inevitably, however, someone is always quick to point out what seems obvious: "But remember, that's only an n-of-1." As if you have cherry-picked your remarkable example from an otherwise unremarkable bunch. How could you be so naive? Join me as I discuss a different perspective on n-of-1 thinking, one that reveals powerful evidentiary options that n-of-1 observations give rise to if properly understood.   REFERENCE https://sites.duke.edu/cemmt/2025/12/24/why-individualized-treatment-effects-matter-more-than-averages-in-musculoskeletal-care/
Jan 26
18 min
Psychopathology and treatment effect interference, PART 2: Are we all now psychotherapists?
Psychological factors are always and irrevocably present in any clinician interaction with patients. They can be a help or a hinderance. In PART 1 of this series I spoke about common distortions of thinking that can get in the way of our understanding examination and treatment of patients and of what to do and why. In PART 2 I discuss a common underlying factor present with all treatments which threatens to undermine our ability to discern mechanisms of action, and more. Consequently, we may find ourselves facing uncertainty regarding both treatment choices and interpretation of our results. Join me as I discuss emerging science, important past works, and linking these ideas together so that we can better understand how to help our patients, as well as ourselves, in the presence of new information.    REFERENCES Bishop MD, Price DD, Robinson ME, George SZ. The mechanisms of manual therapy in the treatment of musculoskeletal pain: a comprehensive model. Man Ther. 2009;14(5):531–538. doi:10.1016/j.math.2008.09.001 Clifford C, Challoumas D, Paul L, Syme G, Millar NL. Effectiveness of isometric exercise in the management of tendinopathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomised trials. BMJ Open Sport Exerc Med. 2020;5:e000760. doi:10.1136/bmjsem-2020-000760 Di Fabio RP. Disablement: the patient's problem no longer matters. J Orthop Sports Phys Ther. 2000;30(6):304-305. doi:10.2519/jospt.2000.30.6.304 Ezzatvar Y, Dueñas L, Balasch-Bernat M, Lluch-Girbés E, Rossettini G. Which Portion of Physiotherapy Treatments' Effect Is Not Attributable to the Specific Effects in People With Musculoskeletal Pain? A Meta-Analysis of Randomized Placebo-Controlled Trials. J Orthop Sports Phys Ther. 2024;54(6):391-399. doi:10.2519/jospt.2024.12126 Filbay SR, Bullock G, Russell S, Brown F, Hui W, Egerton T. No Difference in Return-to-Sport Rate or Activity Level in People with Anterior Cruciate Ligament (ACL) Injury Managed with ACL Reconstruction or Rehabilitation Alone: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Sports Med. 2025;55(9):2191-2205. doi:10.1007/s40279-025-02268-5 Hancock MJ, Maher CG, Laslett M, Hay E, Koes B. Discussion paper: what happened to the ‘bio’ in the bio-psycho-social model of low back pain? Eur Spine J. 2011;20:2105-2110. Doi:10.1007/s00586-011-1886-3 Harris SR. How should treatments be critiqued for scientific merit?. Phys Ther. 1996;76(2):175-181. doi:10.1093/ptj/76.2.175 Katz JN, Brophy RH, Chaisson CE, et al. Surgery versus physical therapy for a meniscal tear and osteoarthritis. N Engl J Med. 2013;368(18):1675-1684. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa1301408 Lederman E. The fall of the postural-structural-biomechanical model in manual and physical therapies: exemplified by lower back pain. J Bodyw Mov Ther. 2011;15(2):131-138. doi:10.1016/j.jbmt.2011.01.011 Nudelman Y, Pincus T, Ami NB. Association Between Physical Therapists' Attitudes and Beliefs and the Functional Outcomes of Patients With Low Back Pain: A Multilevel Analysis Study. Phys Ther. 2025;105(4):pzaf007. doi:10.1093/ptj/pzaf007 Simonetta R, Russo A, Palco M, Costa GG, Mariani PP. Meniscus tears treatment: The good, the bad and the ugly-patterns classification and practical guide. World J Orthop. 2023;14(4):171-185. Published 2023 Apr 18. doi:10.5312/wjo.v14.i4.171 Zadro JR, Ferreira G. Has physical therapists' management of musculoskeletal conditions improved over time?. Braz J Phys Ther. 2020;24(5):458-462. doi:10.1016/j.bjpt.2020.04.002 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/breakthrough-prize-winner-gerard-t-hooft-says-quantum-mechanics-is-nonsense/
Jan 1
1 hr 3 min
Psychology and treatment effect interference, PART 1: It's you, not me ... and other tales of woe.
Psychological factors are always and irrevocably present in any clinician interaction with patients. They can be a help or a hinderance. When problematic, they can negatively interfere with intended treatment effects. However, they can also be present in clinicians as well. This can lead to distortions of thinking that alter our ability to properly interpret what we are doing, why, and what our results are like. Recognizing such issues is helpful in deciding what to do about them. Join me in this first part of a 2-part podcast as I discuss these aspects of psychologically informed practice and more.     REFERENCES Ballengee LA, Zullig LL, George SZ. Implementation of Psychologically Informed Physical Therapy for Low Back Pain: Where Do We Stand, Where Do We Go?. J Pain Res. 2021;14:3747-3757. Published 2021 Dec 7. doi:10.2147/JPR.S311973 Hill JC, Whitehurst DG, Lewis M, et al. Comparison of stratified primary care management for low back pain with current best practice (STarT Back): a randomised controlled trial. Lancet. 2011;378 (9802):1560–1571. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(11)60937-9 [Study design flaws lead to overestimation of beneficial result.] Rogers JS, Witt PL, Gross MT, Hacke JD, Genova PA. Simultaneous palpation of the craniosacral rate at the head and feet: intrarater and interrater reliability and rate comparisons. Phys Ther. 1998;78(11):1175-1185. doi:10.1093/ptj/78.11.1175 Rosa L, Rosa E, Sarner L, Barrett S. A close look at therapeutic touch. JAMA. 1998;279(13):1005-1010. doi:10.1001/jama.279.13.1005 [9 year-old girl’s science fair project debunks therapeutic touch.]
Feb 16, 2025
29 min
What to do when your patient is lying to you? A perspective.
Not everyone lies, but patients lie more than we might expect. And we’re not good at detecting it. So, what is one to do, as a healthcare provider, when faced with this reality? Afterall, lies and failure to disclose vital health information can dramatically and disastrously impact our ability to provide quality care. Join me in this podcast as I discuss these issues and provide a perspective on what’s known from the published scientific literature blended with the pragmatism of clinical practice. NOTE: Patient examples in this podcast episode are representative. They are drawn from composites of multiple clinical cases modified to protect identities and protected health information.    REFERENCES Embattled Harvard honesty professor accused of plagiarism | Science | AAAS https://www.science.org/content/article/embattled-harvard-honesty-professor-accused-plagiarism Levy AG, Scherer AM, Zikmund-Fisher BJ, Larkin K, Barnes GD, Fagerlin A. Prevalence of and Factors Associated With Patient Nondisclosure of Medically Relevant Information to Clinicians. JAMA Netw Open. 2018;1(7):e185293. Published 2018 Nov 2. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2018.5293 Palmieri JJ, Stern TA. Lies in the doctor-patient relationship. Prim Care Companion J Clin Psychiatry. 2009;11(4):163-168. doi:10.4088/PCC.09r00780
Nov 18, 2024
39 min
Delivering what patients need vs. what they say they want. Does it matter? Points to consider when framing your discussion and choices with patients.
Patients come to us for a variety of reasons, not all of which are centered on a musculoskeletal complaint, or even necessarily centered on regaining full function. This confounds some healthcare providers, and it can lead to confusion, distractions, and misdirected effort. Much in the patient complaint and presentation needs to be unpacked and contextualized to make sense of what a particular patient’s complaint is really about, what they really need, and to distinguish needs from wants. Join me in this podcast as I discuss ideas and perspectives that aid our efforts to deal with these issues to better help our patients.
Jun 17, 2024
23 min
How can we learn from clinical practice? Clinical research. Notes from the road less traveled.
What we know in practice is built upon our formal education, what we read of the scientific literature, what we glean from continuing education and professional development resources, and our participation in residencies and fellowships, but it also can be built upon experience. However, experience can be misleading if knowledge developed from our own clinical practices is not subject to some type of systematic examination. Join me in this podcast as I discuss methods and ideas I have found helpful, and how we can learn from clinical practice.
Apr 4, 2024
26 min
One of the hard questions in physical therapy. A perspective.
An enduring and hard question in the world of physical therapy is: How long should beneficial therapeutic treatment effects last? This is a deceptively simple question. With many different patient presentations, treatment techniques, schools of thought, and approaches to patient management, however, results may vary. Join me in this podcast as I discuss 3 levels of intervention where we have the opportunity to observe changes in our patients with chronic musculoskeletal problems, and how we interpret our findings.
Feb 29, 2024
18 min
Are new graduates ready for independent practice? The 50/50 rule.
Orienting oneself to the early career demands of treatment design in clinical practice can be an uncertain and daunting task for new graduates. This is made more challenging by lack of appropriate guidance during academic and clinical training. Thus, self-assessment is critically important for new graduates so that they can understand if they are progressing toward independence. Join me for today’s podcast as I discuss a simple rule that can be used to determine where you are at in your journey across the landscape of professional development.   
Feb 15, 2024
12 min
PT Students Cure Chronic Shoulder Pain Complaints in 8 Patients, Present Findings, and Get Grilled for What They Did Not Do
As professionals, how do we know what to do for any given patient problem? We of course are educated in physical therapy schools, experience increasing responsibility as interns, pass many tests, including licensure exams, and then are released into the world to ply our skills as best we can. We know to survey the literature to help answer our questions, including use of the PICO template to aid this process. And we know to expect to have many questions. But what do we do when the scientific literature does not provide answers? Join me in this podcast episode as I discuss this issue in context to what I observed when teaching students and the surprising reactions their efforts produced.
Feb 4, 2024
22 min
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