In the second half of this episode of our CleanTech Talk podcast interview series, Michael Barnard, Chief Strategist of TFIE Strategy Inc. and CleanTechnica contributor, and Zachary Shahan, Director and CEO of CleanTechnica, sit down to continue their talk about physical isolation, COVID-19, and politics.Featured image: Vice President Joe Biden gives remarks at the U.S.—China Climate Leaders Summit, held at the JW Marriott hotel in Los Angeles, California, Sept. 16, 2015. (Official White House Photo by David Lienemann)