In this episode of the Choosing Different mini-series, Hali is joined by her daughters, Mataia and Morgan, for an honest conversation about betrayal trauma's impact on the whole family — not just the marriage. Hali reflects on what she believed she was doing right at the time (staying reassuring, keeping hard details between the adults) and what she's since learned she missed about how her daughters were actually experiencing it. Mataia and Morgan share what that season of family trauma recovery looked like from where they were standing as kids, and how it's shaping the choices they make now as young moms of their own.Together they talk about the protective patterns that form in the middle of survival mode, why validating both the parent's experience and the child's experience matters for real healing, and what it looks like to break old patterns on purpose instead of by accident. The episode closes with an invitation to the Becoming Together mother/daughter retreat.Mentioned in this episode: If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.Get support for your children:  Witnessed Group Coaching program led by Morgan Ellsworth. Connect with Morgan Ellsworth: [email protected]: @healing.betrayed.families Podcast: Healing Betrayed FamiliesEnjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review💬 Join the Community📲 Share This EpisodeConnect With Me + Continue Your HealingIf today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalListen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

If the betrayal in your relationship happened years ago — and life moved forward, but the deepest layers of healing never actually happened — this episode is for you.Maybe the resources weren't available at the time. Maybe neither of you had the language for what betrayal trauma actually is. Maybe you got through the facts but never did the deeper grief work. Whatever the reason, when real repair gets skipped, the pain doesn't disappear — it waits.Enjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review 💬 Join the Community 📲 Share This Episode Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingIf today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.The Awakening The Man Within men’s Somatic Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey — and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11th. If you are a navigating parenting in the aftermath of betrayal, you will find insightful information and tips on how to talk to your kids in my self-paced course called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠. I created this course alongside my daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, LMAFT, CCPS. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalListen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalJoin My NewsletterStay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠Connect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

When we talk about betrayal trauma, the picture most people carry is of a betrayed woman. But men experience betrayal too — and their pain often goes unseen, misread as anger, or dismissed entirely. In this episode, Dr. Laney Knowlton joins us to look honestly at what betrayal trauma looks like for men.We talk about the support gap, look at the cultural messages men carry, and how those make healing challenging.Most importantly, we talk about what actually helps and what genuine healing looks like whether a man chooses to stay or leave. Dr. Laney Knowlton is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor and clinical sexologist with a PhD in Clinical Sexology. She maintains a private practice, Knowlton Counseling with physical offices in TX and UT and is licensed across more than a dozen states. She specializes in sexual abuse, betrayal, and problematic sexual behavior. Dr. Knowlton is the author of Healing from Betrayal, Infidelity, and Problematic Sexual Behaviors (Routledge, 2025) and the developer of the Connected Recovery® framework. She currently serves as President of the Society for the Advancement of Sexual Health (SASH). KnowltonCounseling.com & ConnectedRecoveryTraining.comLaney@KnowltonCounseling.comlinktr.ee/connectedrecoveryFree Handouts Most Recent BookSASH podcast Other Resources in this Episode: Going Deeper: How the Inner Child Impacts Your Sexual AddictionHelping Couples Heal From Infidelity and Find Love AgainThe Intimacy PyramidThe Betrayal ShrinkEnjoyed This Episode?Here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review💬 Join the Community📲 Share This EpisodeConnect With Me + Continue Your HealingYou don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone.Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveI’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalListen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

You can say all the right words and still leave your partner feeling completely unsafe.If you're the partner who caused harm, that may be the most frustrating thing you've encountered in recovery — you apologized, you said "I understand," you told her you're here, and somehow it still landed wrong. In this episode, Hali explains why your partner isn't responding to your words. She's responding to your body — to whether your presence feels safe or braced, whether you're actually with her or just managing her. That's embodied empathy.Hali walks through what embodied empathy actually is and why a traumatized nervous system is exquisitely tuned to detect the mismatch between what you say and the state you're actually in. Then she lays out two concrete lists: the behaviors that model embodied empathy and build safety (staying regulated and present when she's activated, accountability without minimizing, letting her be angry without firing back, transparency over time), and the behaviors that get in the way (defensiveness, minimizing, blame-shifting, gaslighting, withdrawal, empty promises).Drawing on the response patterns in the book Courageous Love alongside a somatic, nervous-system lens, this episode gives both partners a clear, behavior-level map of what genuine presence after betrayal actually looks like.Enjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review💬 Join the Community 📲 Share This Episode Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingIf today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalListen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

What happens when a child no longer has to convince their parent that their pain was real?In this episode of Choosing Different Mini Series, Hali sits down with her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, for a short, unscripted conversation about one of the most healing things a parent can offer: belief. They talk about the three quiet ways parents unintentionally dismiss a child's experience - through differing memories, good intentions, and simple unawareness - and why none of those things make a child's pain any less real.Mentioned in this episode: If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.Join us: FREE Parenting Through the Wreckage Webinar on Wednesday, August 12, 2026 at 5pm PacificGet support for your children:  Witnessed Group Coaching program led by Morgan Ellsworth. Connect with Morgan Ellsworth: [email protected]: @healing.betrayed.families Podcast: Healing Betrayed FamiliesEnjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review — Reviews help other people in the betrayal trauma community find this podcast when they need it most. It only takes a minute and means the world.💬 Join the Community — Connect with others who are navigating this same journey. You don't have to do this alone. 📲 Share This Episode — Know someone who needs to hear this? Send it to them. Share it on your social media. You never know who might be waiting for exactly this conversation.Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingUpcoming Group Coaching: Reclaiming You After BetrayalIf you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a group coaching program focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.👉 ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!⁠Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveThe Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.👉The Six Ways Trauma Hides in the Body 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalJoin My NewsletterStay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠Connect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

What does a truly healthy relationship look like after infidelity and betrayal — and is it even possible to get there? In this episode, Hali sits down with Dr. Randi Gray, Licensed Professional Counselor and PhD in Psychology, to break down the real, practical elements of healthy relationships in betrayal recovery.Dr. Gray has spent 12 years specializing in pornography and sex addiction and betrayal trauma, and in this conversation she gets specific — no vague advice, no platitudes. If you've been told to "set boundaries" or "communicate your needs" but never really understood what that looks like in real life after betrayal, this episode is for you.Learn more about Dr. Randi Gray: Dr. Gray is the owner of Randi Gray Counseling where she works as a counselor and as a board approved clinical supervisor. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Board Certified Counselor. She has a Master’s Degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and her doctorate degree is a PhD in Psychology with an emphasis on cognition and instruction. She is EMDR trained and she is trained in Somatic Experiencing. She specializes in working with trauma, betrayal trauma, anxiety, depression, addiction, and improving overall self-esteem and wellbeing. She has facilitated women’s trauma recovery groups and addiction recovery, groups. Website randigraycounseling.comAnd booksbydrgray.comEmail [email protected]: 480 553-7743Instagram: @randigray_counselingFacebook: Randi Gray CounselingTikTok: @randigraycounselingEnjoyed This Episode?⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review — Reviews help other people in the betrayal trauma community find this podcast when they need it most. It only takes a minute and means the world.💬 Join the Community — Connect with others who are navigating this same journey. You don't have to do this alone. 📲 Share This Episode — Know someone who needs to hear this? Send it to them. Share it on your social media. You never know who might be waiting for exactly this conversation.Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Upcoming Group Coaching: Reclaiming You After BetrayalIf you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a program focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.👉 ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!⁠Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.👉The Six Ways Trauma Hides in the Body 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalJoin My Newsletter👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠Connect With Me Between Episodes👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

This is the first episode of the Choosing Different mini-series of conversations between Hali and her two adult daughters, who were both teenagers when their family was in the thick of betrayal and dysfunction. Instead of letting that experience pull them apart, they've been doing the slow, unglamorous work of healing, learning each other again, and trying to break some of the generational patterns they grew up with. They are upfront that they don't have it all figured out. This isn't a highlight reel - it's a real, sometimes messy conversation, shared in case it helps open a door in your own family. In this episode, they talk about what it means to relate to each other as two adults instead of parent and child, how to choose curiosity over criticism, navigating marriage and relationships as an adult child, supporting each other's dreams, showing up emotionally, and, at the heart of it, what healthy repair after a rupture actually looks like. If this conversation resonated with you, we'd love for you to join us in person. We're hosting a Becoming Together Mother Daughter Retreat in Sedona, AZ, September 8–12. Join Us: Becoming Together Mother-Daughter Retreat Enjoyed This Episode?⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review — Reviews help other people in the betrayal trauma community find this podcast when they need it most. It only takes a minute and means the world.Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingJoin the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate these upcoming experiences: Reclaimed Men’s Parts Work Intensive to heal, integrate, and live wholeheartedly after problematic sexual behavior held August 18-21st. The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9th in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.Awaken the Man Within Men’s Somatic Healing Intensive is a powerful, immersive experience designed for men who have already begun their recovery and self-awareness journey — and are ready to go deeper. This takes place November 8-11th in Spanish Fork, UT. Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.👉The Six Ways Betrayal Hides In Your Body 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalUpcoming Group Coaching: Reclaiming You After BetrayalIf you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a group focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving. 👉 Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalJoin My NewsletterStay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠Connect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

You finally know the truth. So why do you feel worse?If you're the betrayed partner and your fear, anger, and grief have grown rather than shrunk since disclosure, the first thing Hali wants you to hear is that there's nothing wrong with you. In this solo episode, Hali explains why it's common for trauma symptoms to temporarily increase after the truth comes out — and why the usual advice to "just talk about your triggers" doesn't go far enough.From there, Hali reframes the real work for the partner who caused harm: moving into embodied empathy, managing their own triggers when their partner is activated, and learning to experience a trigger as an opportunity to rebuild trust rather than a criticism or an attack. And she anchors all of it to the foundation underneath: real, ongoing movement on making amends, because no amount of skillful trigger-handling works without changed behavior beneath it.Enjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review💬 Join the Community 📲 Share This Episode Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingIf today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalUpcoming Course: Reclaiming You After BetrayalIf you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system. 👉 Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!Listen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠

When someone betrays a partner and then starts doing "the work," the person who was hurt is left with an exhausting question: is this real, or is he just saying the right things? In this episode, host Hali Roderick is joined by psychologist Dr. Yosi Amram, known for his work on spiritual intelligence, to explore one of the most painful uncertainties in betrayal recovery — the difference between a partner who has genuinely changed and one who is simply performing accountability.Whether you're rebuilding trust, questioning whether your partner's growth is real, or doing your own accountability work, this conversation offers a deeper lens on what authentic change actually looks like.Learn more about Dr. Yosi Amram: Yosi Amram, Ph.D., is a licensed clinical psychologist, a CEO leadership coach, a couple's relationship therapist, a best-selling, award-winning author, and a pioneering researcher in the field of spiritual intelligence. A former founder and CEO who led two companies through IPOs, Yosi has coached over 100 CEOs, and works with couples to cultivate passionate conscious relationships that grow and deepen their capacity for love. Yosi is a regular contributor to Psychology Today and the founder of several nonprofits including Engendering-Love.org and AwakeningSI.org.YosiAmram.netYosiAmram.comSI-Relationship.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/yosiamram/TEDx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE-Xlt6_usAEnjoyed This Episode?Here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review 💬 Join the Community 📲 Share This Episode Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingHere are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠complete this interest list⁠ for more information about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalUpcoming Course: Reclaiming You After BetrayalIf you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system. 👉 Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!Listen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between episodes.👉 Instagram👉 Facebook👉 Website

An apology is a moment. Making amends is a process - and confusing the two is one of the most common places betrayal recovery gets stuck.In this solo episode, Hali breaks down the real difference between apologizing and making amends after infidelity and betrayal. An apology expresses remorse, and it often marks where repair begins, but it was never built to carry the full weight of what betrayal breaks. Making amends is something else entirely: a commitment to make things right and to live differently, demonstrated through consistent, trustworthy action over time.Hali walks through what making amends actually looks like in practice: working with a professional to build a recovery plan you can sustain, setting goals that reshape how you live, respecting your partner's boundaries, naming the values you're committing to, and developing genuine empathy for the impact of your choices. She also names the foundation the whole process depends on: staying in integrity, because a single new breach can derail months of rebuilt trust.This episode is for you if:You're the partner who caused harm and you've wondered why your apology didn't land the way you hoped — or you want to understand what real repair requires of you.You're the betrayed partner and "sorry" hasn't felt like enough — and you want language for why you were never asking for too much.Enjoyed This Episode?If this conversation resonated with you, here are three ways you can support the show:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Leave a Review💬 Join the Community 📲 Share This Episode Connect With Me + Continue Your HealingIf today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:Download my free guide: The Six Ways Betrayal Hides in Your BodyJoin the Reclaiming You Waitlist: Healing after betrayal starts with reclaiming yourself. Reclaiming You is a high touch, trauma-informed group experience designed to help you restore nervous system safety, rebuild self-trust, and come home to who you are.Join the Help Her Heal weekly support group for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. Join me at a Retreat or IntensiveIf you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), learn more about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9 in Spanish Fork, Utah.Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. Free Resources & DownloadsAccess free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal. 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal👉Your First Steps to Rising After BetrayalListen to My Other PodcastIf you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal, created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength. 👉 Rooted and Rising Healing After BetrayalConnect With Me Between EpisodesJoin me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠