Charting the Way Forward
Charting the Way Forward
Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, Tory Gavito, hosted by Kerry Eleveld and produced by the Way to Win team
Research-informed strategy and intelligence from across the winning Democratic coalition, with Way to Win cofounders Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and guest appearances from the broader center-left cinematic universe. Hosted by Kerry Eleveld.
Understanding the Missing Biden Voters
We have focus group sound! We worked with Lake Research to talk to four groups of battleground voters that voted for Biden in 2020 and then didn't vote in 2024. Join Kerry and Jenifer as they walk through our conversations with these voters, their background views on 2024, and their thoughts on the parties and Trump oligarchy and deportations. Coming next week: more from these voters, including how they felt about the 2024 campaigns and the prospects for engaging them in 2026 and beyond.
Apr 17, 2025
45 min
The Four Fs: Fight, Fascism, Freedom and F*ck
Another episode, another genius: this week we have on long time DC operative Joe Sudbay with insights from both DC and the incredible, accelerating momentum happening in the states. Host Kerry Eleveld, and Tory Gavito and Kristian Ramos round out the roundtable.
Apr 10, 2025
1 hr 6 min
The Hunger for Strong and Meaningful Opposition (feat. Rep Greg Casar)
Something, finally, seems to be shifting. Join the Charting gang - Kerry, Kristian, and Maddie - as they catch up with Rep Greg Casar of Texas to talk about his experience at the Bernie and AOC Fight Oligarchy Tour, and the recent raft of vastly improved and more emotionally resonant arguments coming from Dems.
Apr 3, 2025
53 min
Zero Sum Politics ⚠️ And the Future Of The Dem Coalition (featuring Terrance Woodbury from HIT Strategies)
Continuing our series of having incredibly smart people on the show, join host Kerry Eleveld with a panel discussion featuring Terrance Woodbury of HIT Strategies, Tory Gavito, and Kristian Ramos for a deep discussion of Black voters and broader Democratic coalition dynamics post-2024.
Mar 27, 2025
46 min
Absurd! Not True! Feat. Anat Shenker-Osorio
Join host Kerry Eleveld and messaging and strategy guru Anat Shenker-Osorio for a rich and not very doomy conversation on the strategically critical and awesomely fun direct action scene, some hot sizzling fresh focus group results, and how the 2024 results are shaping tactical decisions of activists across the US trying to persuade DC Dems to save our democracy.
Mar 20, 2025
1 hr 10 min
To Moderate Or Not To Moderate, That Is The Question
With Democratic enterprises of great pith and moment currents beginning to turn awry and lose the name of action, Kerry hosts, as Dan and Jenifer join for a reunion tour of their brief foray into streaming, The What's Possible Show. Conscience makes cowards of us all as they discuss recent research around the biggest single strategic question facing Democrats: is more moderation really what it's going to take to move the (roughly) 19M Biden voters that stayed home in 2024?
Mar 13, 2025
51 min
Making it Stick, feat. Creator/Strategist Annie Wu Henry
We gave Kristian and Kerry the unenviable task of trying make some kind of sense out of Trump's weird, awful joint address. After they pilot the ship relatively painlessly through those waves and reefs, Kerry interviews Annie with a hopeful and substantive look at how Dems are starting the utterly crucial work of finding their voices.
Mar 6, 2025
40 min
Republicans Take The First Bite of a Toxic 💩 Sandwich
Join host Kerry Eleveld with updates on polling, Maddie Medved with reports from the social wildlands, Jenifer Fernandez Ancona's thoughts on media and strategy, and Kristian Ramos with reports from the Hill as Republicans prepare to pass a budget gutting critical programs for the sole purpose of handing somehow even larger piles of money over to guys like Elon Musk.
Feb 27, 2025
49 min
The Media Gap and the Mechanics of Vibes (feat. Will Stancil)
This episode features something daring, groundbreaking and unheard of in American political podcasting: a discussion between two white guys. While the usual team is out on a strategy retreat, Dan Ancona pinch-hosts for Kerry in a discussion about the right wing media gap and what Dems need to better understand about how vibes are generated and transmitted, with sayer of obvious truths that somehow get misinterpreted as controversial, BlueSky and emerging TikTok star Will Stancil.
Feb 20, 2025
53 min
Evolving A Stronger Resistance in 2025 (feat. Leah Greenberg of Indivisible)
If you have a sense whatever the resistance did during Trump's first term didn't quite work out, you're not alone. Big changes and wild growth are happening already in this new reality, and Leah Greenberg from Indivisible is at the center of one of the organizations harnessing a massive influx of new energy. Join her and host Kerry Eleveld for a crucial and surprisingly hopeful big picture discussion of the efforts to preserve the republic.
Feb 13, 2025
47 min
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