Honest-to-goodness journalist Steven M. Schwartz joins Kevin, Joe, and Toren to talk about the caustic side of news gathering. We discuss bad journalists (who spy on people and tamper with evidence) and when bad things happen to good journalists. We had so much stuff we had to split it into two episodes!

Music: "Dies ist Unverschamtheit" by The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets

Charity: Reporters Without Borders



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