Anthropologists and Indigenous Nations give us a much better way to understand roles than popular business ideas. First you have to understand the ‘role’ of roles. It is not a layer of managing people. And then you have to understand what the totality of roles are that are needed and how they work together. I use my Mohawk grandfathers instruction that I wrote about in The Responsible Business as a way to make sense of leadership and how they are drawn from leading a Nation of people and how I applied them to organizational settings.