Racheal catches up with Spencer Matthews from CleanCo to talk all things alcohol-free. They talk about the power of iteration, how to raise big sums of money and cracking that all-important first listing.

Jon Darby talks The Sin Gusano Project

The show about startups in the drinks world, the founders that are building them and the tipples that inspired them along the way.

Hosted by Racheal Vaughan Jones who has spent over 10 years in-house at some of the world's leading brands and now works with some of the most exciting startups in the drinks space.

Each episode, we imbibe with the founder of a drinks startup and get under the skin of their journey so far, toasting successes and drowning disasters. Join us as we explore different categories, from tequila to kombucha via hard seltzers and wine in a can.