<p>This episode of the Brand Narrative Podcast features John Rivers, Founder and Chef at 4Rivers Barbecue.  Links discussed in today's episode include:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.4rsmokehouse.com">4 Rivers Barbecue</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.4rsmokehouse.com/about/">4 Rivers Barbecue Founding Story</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.get-headway.com">Headway</a> reading app</li>
</ul>
<p>The <a href="https://www.brandnarrative.fm">Brand Narrative Podcast</a> is hosted by <a href="https://findsomewinmore.com/our-team/matt-certo/">Matt Certo</a> of <a href="https://www.findsomewinmore.com">Findsome &amp; Winmore</a>.</p>

Monday-Morning Quarterbacking the Washington Commanders Name Change

The Brand Narrative podcast features conversations about topics and concepts surrounding the world of brand, marketing, and the genealogy of meaningful ideas.  Guests are invited to share perspective, stories of bringing successful brands to market, and commentary about connecting with customers. Episodes endeavor to deliver something intriguing and notable (on most days) and include something useful to the entrepreneur, the marketing wonk, and the creative professional alike.  Hosted by marketing agency owner and author, Matt Certo and the agency he calls home:  Findsome & Winmore.