Bitcoin Reformation Podcast
Bitcoin Reformation Podcast
David Rufner, Jared Townley, Ben Haupt
Welcome to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast. We're three pastors who love the Gospel, the Reformation, and Bitcoin. We want to invite you into a conversation with us. We're not financial advisors, and nothing that we say on this show should be taken as financial advice. We don't promise any kind of returns even if we speculate about them. We simply want to study this new technology of Bitcoin alongside of you, invite you into the conversation, and welcome you into how we're thinking about it as we ourselves study Bitcoin.
010 Fiat, Faith & Bitcoin: Exploring the Intersection
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, three pastors—Jared, Ben, and David—engage in a lively discussion about Bitcoin, the concept of fiat currency, and how these relate to Christian theology. The conversation begins with personal updates and transitions into a nuanced discussion of 'fiat' in both theological and economic contexts. They explore how Bitcoin stands as an alternative to fiat currency and what this means for individuals globally. The episode features insights from C.S. Lewis and references to important economic mechanisms and historical events, aiming to shed light on why Bitcoin could be a game-changer. 00:00 Welcome and Personal Updates 01:32 Family Transitions and Reflections 08:11 The Concept of Fiat 09:55 Biblical Commands and Human Rebellion 11:23 Creation and the Power of God's Word 26:58 Human Endeavors and Divine Reception 35:18 The Nature of Human Sinfulness 36:41 The Concept of Fiat Money 37:50 The History and Impact of the Gold Standard 42:36 The Alchemy of Money Creation 01:00:25 Bitcoin as a Solution to Fiat Problems 01:02:31 The Ethical Implications of Bitcoin 01:10:50 Concluding Thoughts on Bitcoin and Faith
Oct 1, 2024
1 hr 13 min
009 What Would Jesus Think of Bitcoin?
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, the hosts engage in a multifaceted discussion about the intersection of faith and Bitcoin. Covering personal updates and life moments, the conversation transitions to topics including the ethical implications and societal impact of Bitcoin. They explore how Bitcoin could align with Christian values, especially concerning just economic systems, fair trading practices, and the global unbanked population. The hosts touch on biblical teachings, the moral questions around wealth, and the potential benefits of Bitcoin in a more honest and fair world. Notable references include Jason Lowry's ideas on Bitcoin as a soft weapon and Andy Crouch's book 'Culture Making.' The episode concludes with reflections on Jesus' teachings and their relevance to modern economic systems. 00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 01:57 Family Updates and Personal Stories 04:31 Bitcoin and Personal Investments 08:12 Faith and Bitcoin: A Deeper Dive 10:11 Biblical Perspectives on Money 15:54 The Ethical Implications of Bitcoin 27:47 Bitcoin as a Tool for Social Good 43:46 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
Sep 14, 2024
50 min
008 Does Bitcoin Fix the Money & Thus Fix the World?
Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Ruffner in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they explore the intersections of Bitcoin, modern economics, and theology from a Lutheran Christian perspective. They explore the Bitcoiner slogan 'Fix the money, fix the world' and its potential to address societal and economic issues by examining the intersections of Bitcoin with Christian theology. Influential thinkers like Hans Joachim Iwand, C.S. Lewis and Wendell Berry, particularly Berry’s book Jayber Crow, are mentioned, adding layers to the dialogue on society, governance, and faith. Tune in for in-depth analysis and thought-provoking discussions, and don't forget to leave your comments and feedback on social media platforms like X (Twitter) and Facebook.   00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:22 David's Travel Adventures 01:58 Jared's Family Stories 04:52 Ben's Homelessness 06:29 Episode Overview and Reflections 07:34 Fix the Money, Fix the World 10:07 Theological Perspectives on Bitcoin 14:26 Government and Monetary Systems 20:40 Incentives and Saving with Bitcoin 28:41 Historical Context of Money 40:30 The Fragility of Fiat Money 40:50 Pre-Political Entities and Marriage 42:09 The Temptation of Monetary Control 42:46 Imagining a Stable Monetary System 44:06 Bitcoin: A Better Money for a Better World? 44:52 Theological Perspectives on Bitcoin 59:29 Bitcoin and the Law: A Narnian Allegory 01:10:45 Bitcoin's Role in Modern Christianity 01:18:41 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
Sep 5, 2024
1 hr 23 min
007 Talking with Bitcoin Skeptic Sam Sessa
Talking with Bitcoin Skeptic Sam Sessa Join hosts Ben Haupt, David Ruffner, and Jared Townley in another episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they explore the real-world utility and environmental impact of Bitcoin. Featuring their first guest, Lutheran pastor and Bitcoin skeptic Sam Sessa. The discussion delves into practical use cases, societal implications, and Bitcoin's function as a currency or commodity. They examine Bitcoin mining's impact on sustainable energy and electricity grids, debunk misconceptions around energy consumption, and discuss Bitcoin’s role in grid stability. Sam’s concerns spark a rich debate on the future and security of Bitcoin, especially in economic crises or state interventions. This episode offers valuable insights for both enthusiasts and skeptics. 00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 00:13 Jared's Exciting News and Work Updates 01:41 David's Family Vacation and Work Stories 05:33 Ben's Vacation and House Moving 07:01 Introducing the First Guest: Sam Sessa 08:01 Sam's Background and Bitcoin Skepticism 16:01 Bitcoin's Practical Utility and Adoption 36:57 Bitcoin as Currency or Commodity 45:39 Bitcoin's Current Status and Personal Experiences 47:21 Bitcoin as a Strong Currency Alternative 48:54 Challenges of Using Bitcoin as a Currency 49:54 Bitcoin's Transaction Process and Layer Two Solutions 51:33 Bitcoin's Role in the Future of Money 01:11:50 Bitcoin's Environmental and Societal Impact 01:37:32 Potential Risks and Final Thoughts on Bitcoin
Aug 12, 2024
1 hr 41 min
006 What It Means To Own Bitcoin
What It Means To Own Bitcoin: From Exchanges to Self-Custody Join Ben, David, and Jared in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they dive deep into the mechanics of Bitcoin ownership, the importance of self-custody, and the role of nodes in securing transactions. The conversation starts with personal updates before moving on to discuss the different stages of Bitcoin acquisition—from buying on exchanges like Coinbase, Swan, or River, to securing your Bitcoin in hardware wallets like Coldcard, Trezor or Ledger. The hosts also explore the concept of public and private keys, the significance of running a Bitcoin node, and the bigger picture of financial stewardship in the digital age. The problems of the FDIC and their reserves are discussed. Perfect for both Bitcoin newcomers and seasoned enthusiasts, this episode offers valuable insights into understanding and safeguarding your Bitcoin investments. Bitcoin Term Sheet: https://www.notion.so/jaredtownley/Bitcoin-Reformation-Terms-Definitions-b7d382d827de4a869e5c9dd40f975f96?pvs=4 Chapters 00:00 Welcome and Family Updates 03:02 Bitcoin and Real-Life Applications 03:48 The Beauty of Nature and Family Adventures 05:44 Owning Bitcoin: Diving Deeper into the Technicals 21:07 Understanding Bitcoin Ownership 24:09 The Concept of Bearer Assets 33:51 Where to Buy Bitcoin: Trusted Platforms 35:37 Transitioning from Coinbase: Fees and Alternatives 37:54 Understanding Bitcoin Wallets 40:00 Public and Private Keys Explained 44:01 The Importance of Self-Custody 57:37 Understanding the FDIC & Its Limitations 01:01:38 Bitcoin Nodes and Their Role 01:10:09 Final Thoughts on Bitcoin Security and Stewardship
Jul 19, 2024
1 hr 13 min
005 Bitcoin Basics & History
Join the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as three pastors delve into Bitcoin's world, discussing high housing prices, mortgage rates, and Bitcoin's intricacies. This episode covers Bitcoin's history, mining mechanism, and its limited supply of 21 million. Using a spigot analogy, the conversation highlights Bitcoin's growing value due to its scarcity, compared to the US dollar, and draws parallels with spiritual abundance in Christ Jesus. Tune in for a profound discussion on Bitcoin's economic impact and its potential as a superior financial tool while reflecting on theological concepts of true abundance. 00:00 Introduction to Bitcoin Reformation Podcast 00:06 Personal Updates and Family Life 04:26 Bitcoin in the Current Financial Landscape 05:41 Explaining Bitcoin to Beginners 18:22 The History and Origins of Bitcoin 25:44 Understanding Bitcoin's Supply and Value 39:43 Bitcoin's Unique Scarcity and Value Proposition 43:25 The Value of Gold and Its Scarcity 44:24 Bitcoin's Genesis and Fixed Supply 45:05 Introduction to Blockchain Technology 46:04 Bitcoin Mining and Block Rewards 48:29 The Business Model of Bitcoin Mining 50:54 Theological Reflections on Creation and Value 52:41 Understanding Bitcoin Mining Mechanics 01:10:14 The Halving Process and Its Implications
Jul 5, 2024
1 hr 25 min
004 What is Bitcoin? Three Philosophical Views: Social Construct, Ownership, & Technical Relations
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley discuss various perspectives on what Bitcoin truly is, addressing social construct views, ownership concepts, and the philosophy behind Bitcoin's origin and development through a technical relations lens. They explore comparisons to phenomena such as Beanie Babies and tulip mania, tackle criticism from figures like Warren Buffett and Jamie Dimon, and delve into the intersection of technology, philosophy, and theology relating to Bitcoin. The discussion is enriched with insights from philosophers Martin Lipman, Bruno Latour, and Yuk Hui, and references to books like Alex Gladstein's exploration of Bitcoin in human rights, and Andy Crouch's theological writings on technology. The episode rounds off with a theological reflection on the resurrection of Jesus Christ through the lens of Larry Hurtado’s historical work on early Christianity. 00:00 Welcome and Catching Up 03:37 Transitioning to Bitcoin Discussion 04:08 Exploring the Philosophy of Bitcoin 11:57 Social Construct View of Bitcoin 21:56 Critiques and Comparisons 35:54 Financial Privilege and Emergencies Alex Gladstein, Check Your Financial Privilege, BTC Media, 2022, https://store.bitcoinmagazine.com/products/check-your-financial-privilege 36:36 Global Purchasing Power and Bitcoin 37:14 Bitcoin: A Plaything for the Rich? 39:20 Philosophical Perspectives on Bitcoin 40:04 Martin Lippmann's Ownership View of Bitcoin Martin Lipman, “On Bitcoin: A Study in Applied Metaphysics” The Philosophical Quarterly, Volume 73, Issue 3, July 2023, Pages 783–802, https://academic.oup.com/pq/article/73/3/783/7085492 42:09 Ownership and Value of Bitcoin 48:48 Bruno Latour’s and Yuk Hui’s Views Applied to Bitcoin Bruno Latour, Reassembling the Social: An Introduction to Actor-Network-Theory, Oxford University Press, 2007, https://global.oup.com/academic/product/reassembling-the-social-9780199256051 Yuk Hui, On the Existence of Digital Objects, University of Minnesota Press, 2016, https://www.upress.umn.edu/9780816698912/on-the-existence-of-digital-objects/ 01:02:38 Theological Reflections on Technology Andy Crouch, Culture Making, IVP, 2023, https://www.ivpress.com/culture-making Martin Luther Quote: “Just look at your tools – at your needle or thimble, your beer barrel, your goods, your scales or yardstick or measure, and you will read this statement inscribed on them. Everywhere you look, it stares at you. Nothing that you handle every day is so tiny that it does not continually tell you this, if you will only listen... ‘Friend, use me in your relations with your neighbor just as you want your neighbor to use his property in his relations to you.’” Luther’s Works, 21: 237 01:14:31 Bitcoin's Origin and Purpose 01:16:49 The Gospel and Historical Evidence Larry Hurtado, Lord Jesus Christ, Eerdmans, 2005, https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802831675/lord-jesus-christ/
Jun 23, 2024
1 hr 19 min
003 How Bitcoin Solves Every American's Purchasing Power Problem
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben, Jared, and David discuss the concept of scarcity and abundance, specifically in relation to Bitcoin and traditional currency. The conversation begins with personal updates, including Jared's family vacation, David's son's high school baseball performance, and Ben's son being chosen for prom court. They then delve into the topic of scarcity, highlighting how Bitcoin's fixed supply of 21 million contrasts with the inflationary printing of traditional currencies like the U.S. dollar. They explain the impact of this scarcity on purchasing power and why it matters for long-term savings and investments. They use historical examples such as the U.S. Home Price Index and the average price of bread to illustrate how traditional currencies lose value over time. The episode also explores the demand for Bitcoin, evidenced by the increasing number of active wallets, and compares Bitcoin to other cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Litecoin, emphasizing Bitcoin's fixed supply and decentralized nature. They address the volatility of Bitcoin's price, comparing it to the growth stages of a child, and stress that despite short-term fluctuations, Bitcoin's long-term trend has been upward. The hosts also discuss the significance of Bitcoin within the context of historical volatility and economic cycles as explained in the important book, The Fourth Turning. The episode concludes by linking the discussion to faith, highlighting the consistency and unchanging nature of Jesus Christ as a source of ultimate assurance amid the uncertainties of life.
Jun 8, 2024
1 hr 5 min
002 The Scarcity/Abundance of Beanie Babies, Baseball Cards, Bucks, Bitcoin and Easter Life, Episode 002
This episode takes a deep dive into the concepts of scarcity and abundance, navigating through the realms of economics, personal experiences, and theology. Join Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley as they discuss the intricate dynamics of Bitcoin, US dollars, and other commodities within the context of Christian theology and personal narratives. Sharing insights from sunny California, rainy Pennsylvania, and windy St. Louis, the speakers tackle topics ranging from collectibles like Beanie Babies and baseball cards to the profound implications of Easter's message of hope and renewal. Discover how these discussions shed light on our understanding of value, trust, and faith in today's world. 00:00 Welcome and Personal Updates 01:06 Introducing the Theme: Scarcity and Abundance 02:15 Exploring Scarcity/False Abundance in Daily Life: Beanie Babies & Baseball Cards 09:08 Scarcity/False Abundance of Manufactured Goods and the U.S. Dollar 27:04 Bitcoin's Fixed Supply and Implications 37:16 Scarcity, True Abundance, and the Easter Gospel of Jesus Christ
May 25, 2024
45 min
001 How We Got Into Bitcoin & Why Bitcoin Is Like the Reformation
In this inaugural episode, we discuss how we each got into bitcoin. We also discuss bitcoin as a tool that helps people steward their resources. We liken bitcoin to the phenomenon of the Reformation which brought the Word of God to reform the institution of the church from outside in.
May 10, 2024
49 min