John and Cassel react to Wawahte and the discovery of mass graves at Residential Schools. Cassel compares Canada’s oppression of Indigenous peoples to that of Blacks in the US, and John shares some insights into the science of prejudice.University of Albertahttps://www.ualberta.ca/admissions-programs/online-courses/indigenous-canada/index.html Scientific Americanhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-flexibility-of-racial-bias/?fbclid=IwAR1s2ugwUk-LPDnFhwkKNxqO-fnNswJ5BE-SNXFPjxVrhlHXUcxvgN4mI_4

John tells Cassel about his involvement with grassroots efforts to bring the residential school story to the greater public. This is followed by a portion of Wawahte which recounts stories of Residential School survivors.Wawahte Official Site - www.wawahte.comWawahte Documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGrJNUCQ-r4

Cassel explains how the past year has affected him as an actor and how he portrays Josiah. This leads to an exploration of the concept of love and the connectedness of people. Then John and Cassel finally address the elephant in the room; the mass graves found at Residential Schools.https://www.kingstonist.com/news/letter-requesting-removal-of-sir-john-a-statue-in-kingston-city-park/?fbclid=IwAR0VM53SoIQsoa6S_VJuc0Wffx-TA_dX9ky58-dMTx6DWaMUnt3w-gY3XX0

With the growing awareness of systemic racism comes a great deal of angst and anger. The discussion continues with and exploration of awareness and what to do with it.

John and Cassel open the discussion by reflecting on a year of having the discussion, and how events have affected them and the world.

Cassel digs deeper into his suitcase and unpacks past trauma involving his own troubles with the police. A warning that this one’s a bit darker than usual.

The discussion reaches back to the roots of modern society, and how they affect us today, and how they relate to the economy, the environment, and systemic racism.

Cassel recalls a recent encounter with "Karen" in a small town, and expands on new apps that can help even the playing field. This leads back to unpacking human evolution and how it has lead to many of our present issues.

John and Cassel discuss race and voice - both in how we change our voice depending who we're talking to, and who is represented in the audio media. This leads into a discussion of how the slower pace of life during the pandemic has contributed to the recent awakening to racial injustice.

The discussion turns to climate change which leads back to the swing of the pendulum and how it affects issues of race, and the power of the individual.