Beers with Talos Podcast
Beers with Talos Podcast
Cisco Talos
Threats, Beers, and No Silver Bullets. Listen to Talos security experts as they bring their hot takes on current security topics and Talos research to the table. Along the way, Mitch, Matt and a rotating chair of special guests will talk about anything (and we mean anything) that's on their minds, from the latest YouTube trends to Olympic curling etiquette. New episodes every other Thursday.
Keeping Up With the Cybercriminals
In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Dave and Joe are joined by Kendall McKay to dive into the soap opera of modern cybercrime. From rival gangs launching smear campaigns against one another to reputation systems, trusted intermediaries and dark web "customer reviews". Turns out, every ransomware operation is one passive-aggressive group chat message away from falling apart. Kendall chats to us about how AI is changing the economics of cybercrime, why it's helping inexperienced a...
Jul 22
53 min
Space Pirates, Living Off Trusted Services, & Bill Declares Food War
In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Dave and Joe are joined by Talos Security Research Engineer James Nutland to discuss Living Off Trusted Services (LOTS) - a growing technique where attackers use platforms such as GitHub, Google Drive, Microsoft services and Telegram for command and control, malware delivery and data exfiltration. We explore why this trend is growing, how it differs from Living Off the Land (LOTL)....and Lord of the Rings (LOTR)....why trusted services create ...
Jul 8
54 min
AI Is Finding Bugs Faster. Now What?
AI is accelerating vulnerability discovery, so what impact is that having on defenders? In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Joe, and Dave are joined by Nick Biasini to unpack what attackers are doing with AI-assisted vulnerability discovery, why local models rather than frontier models may be a more attractive route for them, and the vendors who are now drowning in a flood of bug reports (many of them junk) as AI sifts through decades of technical debt with nothing but time and ...
Jun 24
47 min
25 Years of Uninterrupted Persistence
Hazel, Dave and Joe plot to celebrate Bill's 25 years at Talos with stories and a good old fashioned roast. The team also covers the latest security headlines, including AI-assisted vulnerability research, and why attackers still can’t resist abusing trusted systems (or Roblox). They also break down the latest Cisco Talos Incident Response Quarterly Trends report, including: Phishing’s return as the top initial access vectorAI-generated credential harvesting pages built in minutesCrimson Coll...
Apr 30
46 min
Gravy, Glutes, and the Talos Year in Review
Hazel, Bill, Joe and Dave break down (sometimes in the literal sense) the 2025 Talos Year in Review which is available now at blog.talosintelligence.com/2025yearinreview The team, supported as always by the Turkey Lurkey Man, dives into the biggest cybersecurity trends of the year, including: · The rapid weaponization of vulnerabilities · Why identity abuse showed up everywhere · Ransomware trends ·&nbsp...
Mar 23
55 min
It's the B+ Team: Matt Olney returns
It's the one, the only, it's Matt Olney! We are delighted to have Matt back to talk with the crew about about the most random things, including TikTok diagnosing us with ADHD, inspiring vtubers, K-Pop Demon Hunters, ransomware in hospitals (the serious bit), attacker use of AI, why 1999-era tricks are still undefeated, and an entirely reasonable number of desserts. We recorded this episode on 20 February - please see the Talos blog for the latest on the developing situation in the Middle East...
Mar 10
57 min
Ranksgiving Returns: The Appetizer Uprising
Guess who’s back? Hazel, Bill and Joe welcome back fresh-from-parental-leave Dave Liebenberg, who has returned with a new baby, and some truly chaotic Thanksgiving opinions. We kick things off with the security headlines. Joe gets spicy about a recent “AI-orchestrated cyber campaign” report. Dave brings us the poetic news that AI models can apparently be jailbroken with a well-placed limerick. Hazel challenges the others to a guessing game about just how much cyberatt...
Dec 4, 2025
46 min
Two Marshalls, One Podcast
Talos' Vice President Christopher Marshall (the “real Marshall,” much to Joe’s displeasure) joins Hazel, Bill, and Joe for a very real conversation about leading people when the world won’t stop moving. We start with Marshall’s days in the Navy’s nuclear program and the art of translating deeply technical work for non-technical leaders. We then get into how he joined Talos (“you WILL do this for me”), why being right beats being first, and how to keep a team steady and mission focussed when t...
Oct 16, 2025
45 min
How to Ruin an APT's Day, with Sara McBroom
This week, the B-Team gets an upgrade as we’re joined by Sara McBroom from Talos’ nation-state threat intelligence and interdiction team. Sara shares her journey from a liberal arts major to tracking some of the world’s most advanced adversaries. Along the way, she talks about moving from the U.S federal service to Talos, mentoring, leading with empathy, and why making bad actors miserable is a pretty good day’s work. Before diving into Sara’s story, we hit the security headlines (ouch) and a...
Sep 11, 2025
44 min
So You Wanna Be an Incident Commander? Meet Alex Ryan
We welcome new Talos teammate and incident commander Alex Ryan to the pod this week. Bill, Joe and Hazel chat with Alex about what it really takes to lead through the chaos of a cybersecurity incident, from coordinating stressed-out teams, fielding exec questions, and making sure people eat. Much to Bill's dismay, we have something resembling a "format" for this episode, and we start by breaking down the week's security news, including: The SharePoint zero-day exploit (“ToolShell”) and what d...
Jul 31, 2025
51 min
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