Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins
Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins
Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins
LGBTQIA+ Captured Girl Scouts: How To Stop This Cycle
1 hour 3 minutes Posted Oct 9, 2026 at 12:02 pm.
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Malcolm and Simone examine how the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts shifted from their founding principles into vehicles for progressive cultural messaging. They review membership declines, policy changes around identity and pride programs, and the strategic missteps that allowed institutional capture.

The discussion covers the original intent behind scouting, past conservative battles over inclusion and pledges, and why reframing certain issues as unique arousal patterns rather than innate identities could have changed outcomes. They also explore lessons for building resilient future organizations and avoiding optically weak fights.

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Malcolm Collins:Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about how Girl Scouts has become something of a pipeline into the urban monoculture. We’ll be reviewing articles on it, and I want to study how it became this as well as scouts, which has become increasingly, though it resisted for longer, more and more a pipeline into the urban monoculture. And we can see where it attempted to resist, and I think it pulled really stupid cultural battles, which is what caused it to lose the game. And this is something that we need to think about and use strategically as our people, the the Americans, move forwards in conquering the world. So if we go back to the founding of the scouts, here are some quotes from the guy who founded it to understand what his intention for the scouts was. Okay?

Simone Collins:Let’s go. Yeah. Let’s go.

Malcolm Collins:Play up each man in his place and play the game. Your forefathers worked hard, fought hard, and died hard to make this empire for you. Don’t let them look down from heaven and see you loafing about with your hands in your pocket doing nothing to keep it up. That’s what I want on my scouts wall. I I... I’ve thought it would be fun to, with the index one day, recreate, like, a base scout, like, the the imperial scouts for the the future empire of man to one day unite all nations under the iron hand of the imperium. Alright. And then here’s another way of him. The surest way to keep peace is to prepare for war. Don’t be cowards and content yourself By merely paying soldiers to do your fighting and dying for you, do something in your own self defense. Alright. Now if we look at what has happened to the scouts, it hit peak membership in the nineteen seventies at four to 5,000,000. It’s late to Wow. Only 2,000,000 by the two thousand tens. And today, it’s dropped, especially after the pandemic, to only around 1,000,000. I do not think it is a rescuable institution. Well, I

Simone Collins:don’t know. When things get really small, can’t they be really good? Like

Malcolm Collins:Well, yeah. You can take it over more easily. But Yeah. We’ll go over how these institutions were lost because I think studying them in a microcosm can be a very, very good way to harden future institutions and to think about how you make recapture work.

Simone Collins:Okay.

Malcolm Collins:I’m I’m reading here, from an article from the Daily Wire about the Girl Scouts. But that all changed in 1993 when she discovered the organization was removing its reference to god in the Girl Scouts promise. As a Christian, Gabba Ray was upset about this, but as a volunteer, she was also alarmed. Where had the decision come from, she wondered, and why was no one informed? Today, Girl Scouts USA publishes an official LGBTQ plus pride month patch program available for Daisy scouts, kindergartners to first graders on up. Even you look alarmed by this. Fun patches are optional and are at the discretion of troop leaders to present. Girls can earn a rainbow patch by completing activities, including making rainbow flags to celebrate LGBTQ plus pride month, watching documentaries on LGBTQ history, such as the Stonewall Uprising, which is, by the way, a fictitious rewriting of history. the real Stonewall uprising was a mafia bar that the police needed to raid because it was a mafia bar. A bunch of gay white men and a few cross dressers, not trans people, fought against them. Later, some people who later identified as trans arrived well after everything had started and gotten underway, and then they attempt to claim that it was like trans women of color who threw the first whatever at the police raiding a mafia bar really something Oh, no.

Simone Collins:I didn’t know about I didn’t know about it being a mafia bar before that. That’s that’s insane.

Malcolm Collins:Another episode on it likely. Like, just how comical it is that anyone would treat it as a big thing of pride or... Like, the gays do this with everything. Why don’t they always pick the worst people like Harvey Milk who... Disgusting human being. he, for a long time, dated a child, I think 14, 15.

Simone Collins:Oh, you mean young young. Okay.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. And then the kid, he dumped him when he got older because Harvey Milk only really liked children. He he dated a number of young people in a row. And when they aged, he would dump them, and the guy ended up unaliving himself because of this. And when somebody told him, you know, the... This person is thinking about unaliving themselves given the way that you’ve been treating him and just goes in from your life. And he’s like, well, tell him to not make a mess. Like, truly, a a vile human, and they named one of our warships after this guy.

Simone Collins:They have a Well, and the whole really nice new SFO terminal as well.

Malcolm Collins:No. Harvey Milk is a monstrous person. The Stonewall Rye uprising was not an uprising. It was a crackdown on a mafia bar. Like, gays need to get some good heroes, or if they don’t have good heroes, they should be be asking themselves why. Why does this correlation exist with not caring about this guy graping a child and becoming a major figure within our movement. It’s it’s tough. It’s tough. I’m gonna be honest. But here, memorizing poetry of LGBT poets, reading children’s books such as I am jazz and love makes a family, and visiting National Women’s History Museum’s website to study LGBTQ historical figures and participating in the gay, lesbian, and straight education network, GLSEN, no name calling week. The patch guide calls it an effort to, quote, disrupt anti LGBTQ plus harassment and biased bullying. and, no, this is for badges. Like, you get bad... The the girls are, like, given tasks lists to do this stuff, to watch this stuff that is rewriting history of Wow. So, yeah, they’re they’re literally... You get a little... You get a

Simone Collins:patch, which is pretty... And girls love rainbows. I love rainbows. Everyone loves rainbows. I mean, when you’re a kid, rainbows are awesome. So you want the rainbow patch, then the only way to get it is to... By watch... By watching a bunch of propaganda. That’s unsettling. Okay?

Malcolm Collins:Not going out and helping anyone. Not doing anything good. Just watching propaganda.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Why not, like, some kind of adopt a gay program where you, I don’t know, bring them socks or something? Some oat milk. I... What what do... Whatever. You know? Like, just be nice to be... Even, like, just to be nice to the the gays would be great for a week. But this whole no no name calling. What are they even, like, at that age? Anyway... Yeah. I don’t think they’re walking around using anti gay slurs

Malcolm Collins:when they’re that age. I was. Yeah. But you forget what the, nineties were like and the eighties

Simone Collins:were like. They were a different time.

Malcolm Collins:The way that Beavis and Butt Head talk, if you are a young person, people just going around calling people, like, fag and stuff like that, that was completely normal when I was growing up.

Simone Collins:I don’t think a sweet little girl scout, though, is doing that. Yeah. I mean, the word gay had

Malcolm Collins:a lot of utility that we’ve lost. Like, there’s often times when I find myself wanting to be like, that’s a pretty gay thing to say, or, like, that looks pretty gay. Right? Or, like, you know, the the the sort of way of defining a thing is, like, effete and in a bad way, I think, had some cultural utility. And I remember getting in trouble even back then, even in, like, elementary school. It was, like, my workers of the family. I remember once they got really mad because I called someone a Mongoloid. and they’re like, what did the Mongol people ever do to you? And I was like, well, I European history. Why why why are you scamming Genghis Khan here, man? Like, he was horrible. But, anyway, we’re... Wait. We should get back to calling people Mongoloids. It had it had Racial connotations beyond that. I understand. But the Mongols were pretty off. I mean, they... Nobody cared if you called someone a hun.

Simone Collins:I know. But I actually think that Mongoloid had, for a short period of time, for whatever reason, some kind of clinical... Like, know, retard. You know? Like, that had a clinical background for a while. And I think for a while, there were some there were some professional class that referred to Mongoloid. Like, it was like a a condition. I... Maybe I’m remembering this totally wrong.

Malcolm Collins:Maybe it was a name for a group of ethnicities, which

Simone Collins:is different. You look a certain way, and it was like... I think that’s yeah. Anyway... Well, I don’t know. But I’m just saying, I wouldn’t I wouldn’t bring it back.

Malcolm Collins:I actually think that that is the worst. So one of the arguments I’m going to make here is people didn’t notice the culture wars moves that actually mattered, and they fought against the ones that didn’t matter. examples here. Okay? We’re just going for some that we’ve been reading so far.

Simone Collins:Okay.

Malcolm Collins:When the gay... The the scouts fought against the inclusion of openly gay people in the scouts, that was a very stupid fight. When the girl scouts, these former conservative people fought against people saying things like being able to say something other than under god during that part of the pledge, that was a very stupid fight to have. When the massive cultural losses were not around those questions, They are around the normalization of shunning the word gay in a negative context or fag in a negative context. That was the massive cultural victory. And no conservative stepped against that because they didn’t under... They were like, well, that does sound mean or whatever. That does sound... And it’s it’s... So we’re not gonna fight that when it’s it’s actually these acts of greater cultural vulgarity that are the more important lines in the sand to never step back from. recently, an example was Tech Tone was on our show, and he used the term, you know, like, oh, it’s good that you, as white people, are having kids as a white couple. Now you look at our community. We have many people who aren’t white in our wider community, but that society made it normal to shun or, stigmatize white individuals for being proud of a white identity or wanting success for their own group is genuinely horrible and repulsive. And it is a huge cultural loss when a Mexican can say, I’m glad you’re having Mexican kids. I’m glad you’re proud of your Mexican identity. Or Pakistani can say, I’m glad you’re having Pakistani kids, I’m glad you’re proud of a Pakistani identity. The white individual cannot do that. And that... It was... It’s a step that we never should have stepped back from, but that feels a lot grosser culturally speaking, especially to the boomer conservative that doesn’t understand the culture wars, a thing to not step back from than something like everybody has to say god in the pledge. And the reason why... I’ll I’ll explain here. We’ve gone a bit tangent why it’s so important, this particular part of the culture war. It’s because by keeping god in the pledge or by keeping somebody who openly identifies as gay out of scouts, you don’t actually change anyone’s mind. You don’t actually preserve your perspective in any meaningful degree. The same sex attracted person who’s chosen to live a same sex lifestyle that maybe had conservative sympathies has now simply been pushed out of conservative circles. The nonreligious individual who has a problem with saying under god or who follows some other religion has now just been pushed out of an institution that otherwise was... Could have been used to Americanize them. These people will just lie otherwise to be in these institutions. It’s not a big deal for them to just lie, and they do it anyways and especially the nefarious ones. It isn’t the conservative Christian gay man who has principles who... That’s the one who leaves. The one who wants to diddle kids, they just lie. Okay? So you have achieved nothing of value through these types of exclusions. Right? They’re they’re meaningless cultural victories, whereas the real victory isn’t enforcing someone to say god. It’s to get them to believe in god. Okay? And and it’s the same with the the words. And so why is the normalization of the words a problem? Well, we’ll get to that because it will eventually explain everything of how they conquered these institutions. Another suggestion is for girls to don uniforms and attend an LGBTQ plus pride celebration in June with your family troop. This is a quote, by the way. And a person then says, as a Girl Scout, even when I was a leader, I was not allowed to march in uniform at a pro life parade, Gabby told me. Oh. But now they’re saying that you are supposed to march in LGBTQ plus Pride Month parades?

Simone Collins:That seems... That does seem a little pointed, doesn’t it?

Malcolm Collins:Well, this is actually the key to everything. So I’ll go into it a bit before I read more because, you know, we’re still near the beginning here, and you guys need to grok why it’s important that you approach the cultural battle in a sane way. And the people who are like, oh, you never seed anything, they’re stupid because they end up looking like crazy people. If you never seed anything, if you’re never like, oh, there’s any area where we can find compromise, then people just don’t work with you. And what ends up happening to people with that mindset is they facilitate the capturing of organizations Because what happens is what happened in girl scouts. Somebody says, well, we’ll give them a choice to say something other than under god, and then all of the people who were unwilling to compromise on anything or unwilling to continue the fight just left girl scouts, and the organization became dramatically more woke. That was the result of that stupidity instead of just continuing to say gay. Okay? And them stigmatizing the use of these terms and being able to capture an identity group for themselves, the LGBQ plus whatever group, is how they have been able to normalize Girl Scouts advocating for their interests while you cannot go to a pro life parade. And the the way that they do that is they say, well, the pro life parade is political, but my identity is not political. My identity is innate. And because they can claim their... No. What’s funny is they also will... I mean, the the fight between the true scrums and the two cutes is over. The two cutes won. They don’t believe their identity is innate within their own circles, but they will argue it publicly because they don’t care about truth. They care... They already won the cultural victory of defining it as an identity, rather than a sexual proclivity, which is, I think, the way we... That was the fight we never should have given up. That was the battle. The stupid fight that conservatives fought, if we’re if we’re gonna go into this of the past, the boomer conservatives who failed us and allowed society to go as woke as it did, which is part of why I don’t wanna go back to the way things used to be because they failed, fundamentally speaking, was to fight over, whether gay people, same sex attracted people existed. They’d be like, oh, it’s a medical condition or, oh, they don’t exist or, oh, it’s a choice. and this is all very clearly not true, and so it was stupid to fight for in the beginning. If they had instead said and made the battle lines, same sex attraction is a unique arousal pattern like any other fetish That would have been the line that would have allowed this to never happen. Because then this becomes a question of do we send the kids to a museum for a fetish? I mean, a community has developed around that fetish, but communities develop around every fetish. Communities have developed around the furry fetish. Communities have developed around the BDSM fetish. Communities have developed around the leather fetish. Communities have developed around the pony play flip fetish. But I don’t make my kids go to a pony play museum. Now these people Is there one? There very well could be.

Simone Collins:Oh, well, fair. K. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:We never followed up with that guy who wanted us to talk at the sex museum.

Simone Collins:The museum of sex. We just haven’t been to to New York with enough free time to do something. You want me to reach back out to him? I can do that.

Malcolm Collins:Well, I don’t wanna go to New York anytime soon. Feel so far behind on everything.

Simone Collins:I know.

Malcolm Collins:Whatever. So why don’t we wait till we don’t feel so far behind on everything? I am, like, literally drowning here. We’ve had people filming at our house for, like, half the last week, which means we’re really behind on episodes. and I’m still pumping out a new song a day,

Simone Collins:and these songs are bangers, people. They’re delightful, though.

Malcolm Collins:And I’m doing it because the rfab API lets you just copy and paste. Go to rfab.a I backslash API. It will just give you something you can copy and paste into your AI that gives your AI all of these video music processing capabilities. And I’m often... People are like, well, these have a lot of edits errors in them. It’s because I had a film crew here. I did literally no edits. I just had an idea. I ended up... The RFM API can create songs, but I do it on Suno because it’s slightly better. And And I just give it the song and the lyrics, and I’m like, here’s my thesis. Go for it.

Simone Collins:But, anyway,

Malcolm Collins:the the the it should have been... Like, the fights... And I saw almost nobody having this fight in the old conservative side. I saw almost nobody being like, no. Like, it is true. They’re right. Like, they’re they’re born being a... Or they’ve... If not born, they, through some life event, developed this series of attractions. I mean, it could be parasites. See our episode on that. very offensive, but it could be. but that doesn’t mean that they have to do it. Right? That doesn’t mean they have to structure their life around it. And this is... You know, I’ve I’ve been talking with my kids about this more. That is the bigger fight. The fight of should you live a life defined by a search for self actualization? is it all about feeling good yourself? Is it about pursuit of yourself? Is it about a pursuit of this individual identity rather than a larger cultural identity? And if you do that, that is where society begins to fall apart. And conservatives just were not culturally equipped historically with the knowledge of that. They thought the important fights was the allowing openly same sex attracted people living a same sex attracted lifestyle to associate with the organization rather than just treating them like a furry who’s involved in scouts. Scouts never banned the furries. Scouts never banned the people who were openly in the pony play. The very fact of banning this one fetish or unique arousal pattern and not the others defined it as something more than a unique arousal pattern and was, if anything, a loss and facilitated their ability to achieve the wins that they’ve been able to achieve. They also ask for using the correct pronouns in a way that treats everyone with respect. Note these are kindergarteners. the same national organization that once asked girls to promise their duty to god and country now publishes guides instructing troop leaders to familiarize themselves with... I glisten terminology, and celebrate the International Trans Day of Visibility and the National Coming Out Day alongside Pride Month. The council recommended volunteers complete the Safe Zone Project, a DEI laden heavily pro LGBT curriculum that includes materials called the gender bred person, the privilege of and privilege for sale. Oh god. Privilege for sale. They have to read a book called privilege for sale, and the genderbred person, that’s where that

Simone Collins:chart comes from. It’s like,

Malcolm Collins:it’s gender versus sex and where they’re different from each other.

Simone Collins:Okay. Someone... It’s like Mods were asleep, and someone with a lot of extreme leftist ideology was just like, okay. I’m gonna go make all the edits, all the edits, and they just vandalized so much of Girl Scout activity. But... Wow. Okay. That’s Yeah. That is... That’s shocking. But I always kinda felt like Girl Scouts weren’t real anyway. I mean, aside from Girl Scout cookies being an institution, I always just felt like it was only Boy Scouts or nothing. Like, I I I love the idea of the Boy Scouts as a kid. Never wanted to join the Girl Scouts. I would want to join the Boy Scouts. Well, you can now. Yes. I I know.

Malcolm Collins:Boy scouts is now... When when they... I I thought that this was at least a good move. When they allowed trans people in, they allowed, girls in at the same time because they’re like, well, I’m not gonna say they’re not a girl, but whatever. Yeah. If if the other organizations are getting too woke, but they have increasingly become woke themselves. You know, they famously didn’t let gay people participate openly. Gay people participate. And as as I said, I I actually think that that move helped the opponent because it made the conservatives look unreasonable and look just cruel because a lot of people know an upstanding gay person who Wasn’t

Simone Collins:it just like a logistical thing of, like, this, especially because they go camping away from massive parental supervision that you wanted to be a sex free zone? And if there’s any insinuation of of sexual attraction, it kind of makes it something fewer parents are gonna be comfortable with. Isn’t that more Well, the

Malcolm Collins:type of gays who molest... I mean, now the... You see it with with other people, but there there are straight people who molest children or claim to be straight, molest children as well. Like, I I I think that if a gay person has a long history around kids and not molesting them, that makes you look very unreasonable. Right? Yeah.

Simone Collins:That’s a fair point.

Malcolm Collins:Especially when you... Yeah. Just completely ridiculous. Right? Like, the the... I I don’t I don’t think the... You’re going to win the optics war taking that position. And that’s really important. And if you had instead taken the position... And this is what the leftist did. You see, they focused on forcing us into optically bad positions and then changing the educational materials.

Simone Collins:Okay?

Malcolm Collins:Whereas we focused on what was being said in pledges, and with that, we lost.

Speaker 6:Yes. Well, unfortunately for you, the scouts have a policy that openly gay men cannot belong. We are left with no options, mister Al. I’m afraid you are hereby out of scouts. Out of scouts? We’re sorry, mister Gay Al.

Speaker 5:But I’ve been in scouts since I was nine. It’s a huge part of my life.

Malcolm Collins:Now look at how we fight the game these days. Very different, very more successfully. The right right now has repeatedly made a habit of forcing the left into optically unpalatable positions. And the left, because they have rotted so much, is unable to move away from them. Great example of trans people in sports. Most left people don’t really care about this issue. Most trans people don’t care about this issue, but they have built a rule around themselves around not stepping back. So we just keep hammering. Keep hammering because they will always publicly defend it and always look unreasonable. Right? We can play this game as well. Trans people a lot like kids in this. Girl Scouts puts trans girls, that is boys, in girls’ spaces, in girls’ sleeping spaces, in girls’ rooms, monitoring girls, and monitoring girl troops. Any person would say that’s a stupid, stupid thing to do, and you should not be doing that. So you can hammer them on that. They will defend it. They will look bad, and they will lose the court of public opinion because it’s not even about the individual institutions. It’s about the court of public opinion. And the court of public opinion means knowing the battles to fight. And this is why we regularly within our right wing coded channel to a right wing audience argue things that I know an audience captured channel is not gonna be able to do because it’s in the long term best interest of civilization. And and what’s in the long term best interest of civilization is right wingism winning. And one of these things, like, we are known as being not anti masturbation. Right? and people can be like, why do you take this? And it’s because that... You... You’re literally taking somebody at the ages where they are most likely to deconvert from your culture and religion, which is when they’re going through puberty, that beginning window when they are most hormonal, and you’re giving your opponents a hook to pull them in. And worse, you’re giving it to them with a bunch of rules around no sex until marriage, which I would like for my kids, right, that make it even easier to pull them in because they’re not getting sexual release. They’re not getting sexual access. They’re seen as low status. They’re seen as weird. They’re seen as whatever. And I think that if you’re gonna take those positions with your kids, you have to take them with release vows. For example, while I would be very against PIV sex for my children, until they are married because it can lead to pregnancy, I would be totally okay with oral sex if they are in a committed relationship. Right? That is a different, you know, a lot of traditional people wouldn’t be. But I’m like, if you if you ban everything, then you create this hyper libido wise person who’s very easy to pull out, and you you put a little hook on them that they can just... The leftist can just troll and grab and say, oh, you’re feeling these naughty things. That means you’re bad. That means why don’t you join us as other naughty people? Oh, you like weird things? Well, we like weird things. Look look at all of these weird identities you can choose with us. Right? And if you don’t stigmatize that, it’s way easier to keep them. And for a lot of these things, there isn’t even a big reason. People think that the stigmatization keeps out the bad ideas, And I think that that’s that’s fundamentally wrong. The stigmatization of bad ideas keeps out the bad ideas. No. The stigma... Imagine if we had gone in a different direction. Imagine if we had focused the culture war on, is same sex attraction a unique arousal pattern? We’ll just remove the word fetish if it overstigmatizes like any other, like being a furry or something like that. Right? And that that is associated with a lifestyle. And can we just teach people about it in that context? And we tell people that some people believe, and the bible would tell you, that living around this or building your identity around this is a bad idea and a bad way to live. Right? And it will lead to negative consequences for you. that would sell way better than treating it like a disease or something like a lot of people did, which ends up attacking the... And people can be like, well, you should treat it like a disease for x, y. It’s like, well, then your method, your mindset that you’re telling me to adopt, it’s the very one that lost the culture war. Right? So why are you coming at me and repeating it? Right? It’s it’s not gonna work. Now what’s important to note here is we are winning the culture war now. Like, anyone who can see what’s going on culturally knows that the trans agenda is insignificant retrograde. the, willingness to just see any person from anywhere on earth as the same as everyone else, that that immigrants aren’t a problem in some instances, That’s used to be something you couldn’t say. Even Republicans wouldn’t say that. and now we’re just like, yeah. No. That’s a problem. You don’t don’t deal with that. But we’ve been able to do this because we’ve been fighting the fight smarter. Right? Avoiding the unpalatable and the politically bad looking fights ourselves and forcing our opponents into them over and over again. And this isn’t to say that the right doesn’t have any stupid points that it backs itself into. Great one would be like military aid to Israel. Right? Like, just don’t do it. Right? Like, it’s easy. You you could be their ally without sending them aid every year. Right? That’d be a very easy thing to do, and it makes us look terrible to not do it. And if we could end that before the leftists ended that, that would help us a lot. You know, continue fighting our men, continue fighting our enemies, but you just don’t need to give aid to a developed country. Right? And that that would help us a lot. Right? So I think that we need to be aware where these stupid fights still exist in the right, but they’re not everywhere. Right? Like, the the the the one around trying to stigmatize, very aggressively every fetish instead of just being like, well, the bible says don’t do this, but, like, the bible says don’t do a lot of stuff. And if I’m gonna live in society as a normal human, I need to accept that a lot of people are gonna do things that the bible, in my interpretation of Christianity, doesn’t condone.

Speaker 8:So an example here from our perspective would be, I think, a plain reading of the bible by any reasonable person would have keeping the Sabbath be an infinitely bigger deal than not living a gay lifestyle. And yet, I mean, it’s one of the 10 commandments. It’s repeated regularly. It was a big thing that Jesus felt like, obviously, massive deal. And a lot of Christians write it off because of a few post Jesus lines in the Bible, which is pretty shocking to me. And yet it would be bad if I attempted to force everyone in society to legally keep the Sabbath because that would make me look like a crazy person. And there’s a lot of Christians who read the Bible, I think... Or try too earnestly who come to the position that being gay isn’t anti biblical. Now when I read the Bible, I think it says don’t do that. But I also think that the Bible says keep the Sabbath, and somehow a bunch of Christians think that all those laws don’t matter anymore. But somehow the gay law still does, but the Sabbaths laws don’t because Jesus just rewrote the laws that were inconvenient for them specifically.

Speaker 9:By the way, every time this comes up in an episode, the comments we get are pretty funny because you will have one person saying, all Christians believe that you still should follow this. It just changed in this way. And then another person will say, well, duh. Haven’t you read anything? All Christians believe that no Christians should follow this because Jesus fulfilled the law. And it’s like, there’s a lot of Christians who are unaware with how diverse the mainstream Christian perspective is on this particular issue.

Speaker 11:So I tried to find the steel man for this position because I’m actually genuinely confused for this after thinking about it for a bit. And the answer is twofold. one is is that a lot of Christians say, well, we don’t have to follow anything that was a ceremonial law or unique to Israel in that period, to which I would say that you could categorize whatever you want as a ceremonial law. That’s not a very, like, good way to make a moral distinction of what God wants with you, especially when you’re dealing with the 10 commandments, which appear to be from God pretty important. The second, which I found significantly more compelling, is that it is reaffirmed in Romans. However, the problem with this reaffirmation in Romans is it is put next to and presumably on equally bad category as greed, being arrogant, being boastful, or... And it it notes this as being, like, the worst of them. They even invent new ways of doing evil, they disobey their parents. Like, disobeying your parents is is considered worse than this stuff before. And I know a lot of Christians who disobey their parents and don’t think much of it. and I actually think this is a really important rule as well. Like, what great rules the Bible gives us. Right? so cool.

Malcolm Collins:and if I can’t do that, then I’m gonna look unreasonable. I’m gonna lose some war. Thought, Simone?

Simone Collins:Yeah. I mean, The larger point you were making is there’s this really weird correlation between anyone who shouts from the hilltops that something is really virtuous or really vicious and then what they do behind closed doors, be it sexually or otherwise. And that includes, like, chubby chasers having founded fat acceptance. That includes all the anti masturbation people having a really... Lot of weird stuff going on. Just Lot

Malcolm Collins:of weird fetishes. It’s weird how that correlates with super weird fetishes.

Simone Collins:Well, I mean, in general, like, if you see someone hyperfixating on a vice, I don’t know. You should probably... You know, there there are other things that we could be focusing on. Let’s move us forward. And it’s... I find it questionable when people focus on those too much. It’s understandable. Also the same for any single virtue because that falls deeply into territory of deontology, like looking at one particular virtue as being so important to focus on when really the point of all these virtues is where we are going as humanity, you know, hopefully in the direction of of god.

Malcolm Collins:We’re protecting purity means one thing, but, you know, this is this is different for different people. so, for an example of how bad it’s gotten, in one 2025 New Jersey case, a troop leader also involved in moms for liberty said she was removed after criticizing pride related events and keeping her troop away from one involving a transgender teenager speaking about gender identity to children... Kindergartners. She described the content as inappropriate.

Simone Collins:Yeah. I mean, because what they’re doing... When when you have any older kid talk to younger kids, you’re presenting them as an aspirational figure. I would too very much hesitate about presenting a trans kid as an aspirational figure. There isn’t a single trans kid out there who isn’t suffering from a mental health issue. I mean, that... The the very act of being trans is is them having dysmorphia. So I wouldn’t want... No. I mean Yeah. I mean,

Malcolm Collins:I wouldn’t, yeah, I wouldn’t want somebody with anorexia speaking to my kids about pro Anna stuff. You know, I wouldn’t want a trans person. And and when we stay with that framing instead of you have to be a dick to trans people, you win. If you go with z, you have to be openly aggressive and addict to trans people, we lose. And a lot of a lot of conservatives are going with that. They are saying, I have to misgender them. I have to. Instead of just lay it out, they have a mental health issue. They have found a community that accepts their mental health issue that we do not think is appropriate, and we will teach our children about this mental health issue. Was actually just teaching two of my sons about it today. I sat them aside. I showed them what trans people look like. I said these are people who, one day, because I said it happened to one of our friends’ kids, you know, actually, multiple of our friends’ kids.

Simone Collins:Multiple

Malcolm Collins:of But one of them, you know, specifically, because he’s famous like we are, had his kids specifically targeted to become trans and hate him. And the the... This is certainly going to happen to our kids. There are gonna be people out there who explicitly want to target our kids because they are our kids, because that would represent a cultural victory for them. And I’m not going to let that happen. Right? Like, that that is... I have to build defenses against that, and defenses mean every avenue of attack that they could use, my kids need to be prepared for, need to be able to recognize, and need to know what this looks like. And I... I’ve I’ve actually... The way I was explaining it to my kids was very interesting to me because, you know, in the mind of a kid, they were like, well, why would somebody do that? Right? Like, why would this person end up hating their dad? Right? And I’m like, well, because you know how I give you rules. Like, don’t throw the toy car at your brother. Right? And when I punish you for breaking that rule or I am enforcing that rule, it sometimes makes you angry, and it makes me feel like a bad guy to you. And they were like, yeah. I understand that. I was like, well, it’s the same with these people. We come to them, and we say, hey. I understand that this is what you want to do and what would feel good to do right now, but at a societal level, it’s going to have very, very large negative externalities if it’s normalized.

Simone Collins:And

Malcolm Collins:that that makes him feel bad, and it makes them feel like I’m a bad guy because I’m I’m giving them rules. And so somebody went to one of our friend’s kids who had things that he desired that people would tell him are not good things to desire. And they said, the people telling you to not do those things are bad. You should do whatever you want. You should throw a car at somebody the moment you see them. You should do... Any... Anything you feel like doing, you should do it. And they were able to convince him that this was a good thing to do by teaching him that the people telling him not to do it were bad people. And this was an easy thing to teach to our kids, but that wasn’t the cultural battle that we ever fought. The cultural battle we were fighting was whether a gay adult who had no bad record, it should be in scouts, or whether, we should force people who aren’t Christians and don’t believe in god in the first place to say the pledge. And that’s why we lost, and that’s what we cannot fall back to again. Thoughts, Simone?

Simone Collins:I mean, I think the boy scouts also suffered from some high profile or very expensive lawsuits with regard you.

Malcolm Collins:Some sexual abuse lawsuits that happened during the period that they didn’t let gays in Yeah. Which I I think is the point here.

Simone Collins:Yeah. But, I mean, that that financial ruination played a nontrivial role in Well, they’ve had they’ve had fewer sexual abuse cases since banning gays than before banning gays. You mean, since admitting gays than before?

Malcolm Collins:Since admitting gays, the number of sexual assault cases has gone down in the scouts. Well, that’s notable. Yeah. So that’s that’s something that, like, you know, again, the the claimed reason here is a bad reason. You shouldn’t use a false reason that they’re gonna rape the kids when the actual reason is you don’t want a kid to normalize identifying and living a lifestyle around a unique sexual proclivity.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Absolutely. I didn’t know how bad it... It’d become, and it’s sad to notice.

Malcolm Collins:Administration has worked to prevent the scouts from putting kids in the same room as trans kids and stuff like that, you know, like, into separating the genders. They they... Would they put pressure on them saying we won’t let you use, like, military, stuff because they... Scouts use some military equipment, like like spaces and stuff like that to do stuff. and, I think that that was the right thing of the Trump administration to do, but that’s not how we win the war. We win the war by normalizing a real and accurate view of hominis... Of of of, sexuality in humans

Simone Collins:Yes. Which

Malcolm Collins:is what we try to do on this channel.

Simone Collins:It would be lovely to see. I know there are pockets of the Boy Scouts that are really pushing the original message of being prepared, being self sufficient, being able to defend yourself and fix things and use tools and survive in the wilderness. I mean, it... Yeah. It’s sad that an organization that really started out as bringing or at least keeping the fire of radical self reliance alive among kids after the age at which they became infantilized. This this was so wonderful, and to see that be systematically dismantled not on purpose, but through the adoption of all these different policies is really sad. Because one of the few things that was enabling kids through the the nineteen hundreds and after to remain somewhat mature and autonomous and and capable of taking care of themselves were organizations like the Boy Scouts. Because this was after kids weren’t necessarily, like, thrown out on the streets or told at age 12, alright, kid. Time to get a job. Like, you’re gonna go apprentice at a blacksmith shop now. You’re gonna go work at a factory. Right? Like, kids used to grow up real fast. And then the nineteen hundreds hit, and kids were started... They they started to be infantilized in a way that that did, I think, hurt hurt their development and their ability to thrive as adults. Because the whole point is that, at least, I think childhood should be about doing the difficult things an adult does, but with a safety net. Like, for this eighteen year period, you know, roughly, or at least, like, through your childhood and most of your adolescence, you have a safety net. There are people who are there to catch you if you fall back or catch you right before you do something incredibly stupid because you’re under their guidance. And if you do that and you live the full range of an adult life within limits, of course, but, like, you do hard things, you’re given real responsibilities, You’re able to make a lot of those really big mistakes that, otherwise, people are now making as adults before. And before you end up, you know, in debt and bankrupt or with kids or with other irreparable life changes. Right? And and I the Boy Scouts was pretty good at that, and now it’s it’s sad to see where it’s gone. But I don’t think the Girl Scouts ever really did that. I don’t know what the Girl Scouts A first thing

Malcolm Collins:to remember about the hypocrisy of this, right, is in things like 2004, the Bluebonnet Council in Waco, Texas put out logos and materials for Planned Parenthood of Central Texas Nobody’s Fool sex education seminars for fifth to ninth graders and was given a woman of distinction award by Planned Parenthood executive after doing this.

Simone Collins:Well, of course, they would do that.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. So they they are allowed to work with one side and not with the other side, and it’s because we’ve allowed the other side to define themselves as an identity or as adjacent to an identity.

Simone Collins:Oh, that’s really that’s really messed up. That’s really messed up. because here’s the other thing about... I mean, I guess, being through their insinuations pro abortion is that’s just another example of the opposite of radical responsibility. Right? Is they’re trying to teach to young women if they’re really trying to expose them to planned parenthood materials and presumably, like, a ton of birth control and and abortion related materials that, no, even really impactful life choices can be undone, so don’t don’t worry about it too much, which is exactly the wrong message to be sending to people. But... Okay. The other thing... I mean, obviously, it should go without saying it’s it’s notable that the Girl Scouts is primarily known for basically being... Not even an MLM, but just like a marketing scheme for cookies. That is how most people encounter the Girl Scouts is through this intensely competitive sort of winner takes all. I mean, I... I’m sure that how it works in Girl Scout troops is that there’s one or two mothers who are insanely competitively involved in the sale of their children’s Girl Scout cookies. And then there’s, like, a couple of earnest real Girl Scouts who will go, like, door to door, stand outside a grocery store, and actually try to sell cookies. But, really, what’s going on is there are some really competitive mothers who, like, go and, you know, force these cookies upon people, and then they get all these rewards and everything. And it’s... That’s that’s what the Girl Scout seems to be about for so many people, which is also kind of weird. I I know that there was a documentary about, I think, Girl Scout cookies that came out recently because Meghan Markle got on last minute, I think, after it was totally made and decided to make herself a producer. But then the documentary didn’t do very good. And all the people who really hate Meghan Markle gleefully talk about how what a nothingburger the documentary is. But I’m pretty sure the documentary is just about the cookies, which is also somewhat depressing. Was it an anti cookie documentary? Or a Girl Scout. Pro cookie documentary? Or See, that’s the thing. The only thing people talk about is what an abject... Oh, it’s... Yeah. It’s called Cookie Queens. 2026, a documentary directed by Alsa Najimas that follows our girl scouts through a season of selling cookies. It focuses on their ambitions, family dynamics, sales strategies, and the pressure to reach their goals. What is this? A movie about an MLM? Where to watch? lengthen... Well, yeah, what to expect. A warm observational coming of age documentary about shilling products? And they’re saying it’s not an expose of the girl scouts, but I feel like that’s an indictment in itself. Anyway, that’s that’s kind of what people think about the girl scouts, which goes to show you where they are right now, I guess.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Well, I mean, I I think it’s better, and I don’t always... About people like, oh, you don’t wanna recapture the old institute. I don’t f*****g care. I’m gonna I’m gonna build my own thing. I wanna build something that works. Where the index, we have been talking about buying a piece of land in a hard to live area that we will have our kids and other kids who want to go. So, again, if you have kids and young kids and you wanna join our family network for arranged marriages and every... Not not fully arranged, but, you know, like dating networks and stuff like that, like rebuilding the season that we talked about. But one of the things we’ll be doing is buying some land, likely in Canada or something or somewhere that’s, you know, inexpensive to get, because Canada can be a little expensive, that that kids have to learn to survive off of it. We’ll put cameras up everywhere, but, like, I want real survival skills. I want my kids to go out there to make a thing that can kill an animal and kill an animal with the thing they made. You know, like, full on, get out there, do your thing, survival. Right? with a group of other kids. I think that’s that’s how you teach kids hardship and how to, whatever themselves.

Simone Collins:Whatever themselves? Yeah. Improve themselves.

Malcolm Collins:yes. Whatever. You you gotta you gotta... You know, like, when you’re doing... Making a sword, you dip it in water and then heat it and dip it in water and heat it. You have to oscillate between luxury and hardship to build something of maximal flexibility and stiffness. If you make something too rigid, it will break. And that’s one of the things that we’re talking about here. Conservatives historically improved... Employed rigid strategies, which were very fragile. They might have had a hard amount of rigidity, but the moment the crack happened, the entire platform gave. Whereas we need to move towards strategies that are antifragile and that can actually cut through and focus not on the words the kid is saying or who they’re exposed to, but focus on what they’re being taught and what they believe.

Simone Collins:I’m excited for that. It’ll be fun. We’ll start with our family, expand out from there.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. I’m just so... I did... We’ve recently... We’re... I was looking at the the guys who they wanted to introduce you who are, like, white nationalists, whatever. I And was thinking they’re famous, which is cool. They’ve they’ve done a lot of stuff. But between them, have rojax.

Simone Collins:O j

Malcolm Collins:One kid between the two brothers.

Simone Collins:Yeah. And they they have they have merch, including a small Aryan teddy bear for $40. Not long term relevant. Again, you gotta be breeding, people. We’re we’re not mocking them. We’re we’re just observing. No.

Malcolm Collins:This is It’s not mock... It’s it’s it’s to say I care about protecting something like white people. Like, we don’t even do that. Like, we’re not out there pushing that. But, like, we’re doing more for white people than they are. Right?

Simone Collins:Like Oh, because we’ve minted more? Yes. Their strategy More white people.

Malcolm Collins:Vance is doing more than white people than they are because even though his kids are only 50% white, still got four of them.

Simone Collins:Yeah. So he has a a total of two white babies.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Like, what are you guys... Come on.

Simone Collins:Oh, dear.

Malcolm Collins:The the the cultural battle is fought in numbers and the competence of those numbers, how technologically capable these kids are going to be, how technologically engaged these kids are going to be. So if you give them both of those things, you give them the weapons they need to control society, which is the goal.

Simone Collins:It’s a numbers game, and we’re in it for the species, boys and girls.

Malcolm Collins:Love you.

Simone Collins:I love you too, Malcolm. Am I Steak? Here? Yeah. Or am I just, like, preparing it and then saving it for some kind of noodle stir fry? No.

Malcolm Collins:I’m gonna come I’m gonna come down tonight.

Simone Collins:Okay. I got work to do. I got episodes to edit. I got a sexy wife who’s very cute,

Malcolm Collins:who who gets all our audience by jiggling her tatas in front of a camera.

Simone Collins:That’s what I do.

Malcolm Collins:Everyone can see how

Simone Collins:sexy doing this whole time.

Malcolm Collins:And everyone’s like, oh, yeah.

Simone Collins:That’s Yeah. For those of you listening only on auto, I am topless right now, and I have double d’s. Just just so you know. No. That is that is how we achieve our audience is by being maximally sexy. Yeah. Yes. That’s what we do. Says, is this your sexy pose? Is this Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:No. We still get people who come on our podcast and watch it and are like, that was surprisingly conservative. I expected

Simone Collins:Oh, yeah. I I clicked on that title card, and I hated their glasses. But it turns out that they have some interesting takes. I see you. I see you.

Malcolm Collins:K. How? How do people not know that we’re conservative still? Like, I feel like we’ve been around

Simone Collins:Because of the glasses. Because we have Glasses. People post these... It’s very it’s very old now. I don’t know why they’re still doing it, but there’s some, like, grid of photos of leftist media commentators, like Rachel Maddow, etcetera. Weird. All have these chunky black glasses, and we have chunky... And this is the level of IQ that these people have. They’re like, well, it appears to be that these liberals wear chunky black glasses and therefore

Malcolm Collins:You literally dress like a pilgrim, Simone.

Simone Collins:And, like, everything... We don’t have dyed hair.

Malcolm Collins:I do my hair in the most traditional male style in

Simone Collins:the West. To say you don’t, I guess.

Malcolm Collins:No. It’s a crew cut. A crew cut is, like, traditional I shear you in

Simone Collins:the backyard before you run away from me. Well, yeah, that’s traditional. I

Malcolm Collins:haven’t paid a barber in years.

Simone Collins:What are you throwing? You legit haven’t, and it shows. I’m sorry, guys. I try, but, also, you get so mad when I’m like, Malcolm Malcolm, to cut your hair. Did do

Malcolm Collins:that for the documentary crew?

Simone Collins:I keep offering, and they’re like, no. No. They have all their plans on what they want to film, which I respect. They have some some vision. I I... We’re we’re... Our lives are about to be ruined. You understand that. Right? They’re going to just... You know, what will destroy me the very most is seeing the state of our house splashed across. I don’t know if I can watch it. I’m probably going to not be able to watch it.

Malcolm Collins:I’m not gonna be able to watch it. You know that. I’m not gonna make me watch it.

Simone Collins:Will we be allowed to watch it before it comes out? Probably not given everything we’ve signed. It’s... Like, the... Wait. I can’t say anything about what we’ve signed. It makes me feel, based on the legal wording, like we are going to be completely destroyed.

Malcolm Collins:I think you are very mistaken about the state of the media environment right now. A documentary is not the punctuation on an individual. Right? It’s not the final word. It’s a part of a wider cultural conversation about

Simone Collins:the Okay. Let’s look at what has happened recently with tech people who’ve had documentaries made about them, who even... Who invited them into their house. Elizabeth Holmes exhibit one. She, you know, has one of those faces. Okay? And she’s just like, trust me. I just... I’m being so real with you right now. I’m being so real with you. Simone, Elizabeth Holmes they take that and they clip it because they have to because you can’t you can’t film that scene and not clip it.

Malcolm Collins:Okay? And this was this was part of the cultural conversation around Elizabeth Holmes.

Simone Collins:I know, but you have to see. They’re gonna clip

Malcolm Collins:No. But this is what you’re missing, Simone. And it’s clear that you’re just holistically missing it.

Simone Collins:Elizabeth Holmes like, it’s gonna come out. No one’s gonna watch it because no one pays for anything.

Malcolm Collins:That’s not what I said. Okay. So Elizabeth Holmes has not made a large effort of having a active cultural conversation. She tweets from jail. I mean, obviously, proxy

Simone Collins:never tweets for her from jail.

Malcolm Collins:Never heard of anyone who follows Elizabeth Holmes or could tell you her politics or could tell you what her larger missions were.

Simone Collins:She named... I think she named one of her daughters Invictus. Dude, we’re, like, more similar than you would think.

Malcolm Collins:I understand, but she was not modifying the cultural conversation. A better corollary in terms of a documentary that came out recently is the Harry and Meghan

Simone Collins:wore eyeliner and red lipstick. What what are you missing here?

Malcolm Collins:Looking at the most superficial things. The Harry and Meghan documentary

Simone Collins:I’m sorry. That’s what everyone understands about reality.

Malcolm Collins:Closer to this one. So the Harry and Meghan had a public perception of them. People on all sides of the aisle of all perception

Simone Collins:that documentary, they controlled the heck out of it.

Malcolm Collins:And it failed for that reason.

Simone Collins:An immensely successful doc. Wasn’t it the best No. I fail at making them look good for that reason. Oh, I I watched it, and I was like, I feel kind of bad for them. And what a sweet love story. I it was before I found all the Snark channels. Now I realize that there are, like, probably 15 people whose full time income is just from being like, ugh. I hate their faces. And every time they do something... And it’s the stupidest thing. Like, most recently, all the gossip is that Meghan has come out with this advent calendar. but instead of it it being an advent calendar of, like, Christmas in the Cotswolds where they recently relocated from their house in Montecito. No. Oh, insult of insults. It is their house in Montecito, which now is allegedly being liquidated by Tyler Perry who bankrolled their entire sojourn in California. Oh my god. And that... I mean, like, look. This is their careers.

Malcolm Collins:So I’ll tell you what’s gonna happen with the documentary because I I can just predict Alright.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Colin, let’s see just how accurate you are. Okay. So We’re gonna watch it and dive. Embarrassment.

Malcolm Collins:What’s going to happen is you and I are not gonna be able to watch whatever. But whether they go pro us or against us or really any direction, it’s going to be very hard if you look at the normal numbers that a documentary like this can get in terms of viewership. You’re flooding the zone. You you have a documentary that gets, I’d say, on the low end between 5,000,000 and, let’s say, 10,000,000 to 25,000,000 views. Okay?

Simone Collins:Okay. Yeah. That would be a ton...

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. It really explodes. We’re likely looking at... I think, realistically, like, 6,000,000, 7,000,000 is probably where it’s gonna fall.

Simone Collins:Average mid to low tier documentary.

Malcolm Collins:Which means that it’s going to get far fewer views than our channel gets in a given year. Right now, we’re back at we’re back at 1,500,000 views per month again, just in terms of, like, where we sit in the social landscape. Okay?

Simone Collins:Five to 6,000,000 views in their first several days. That’s what net... Netflix documentary, documentaries get. like, most are average launches of Netflix documentaries have drawn roughly five to 6,000,000.

Malcolm Collins:So this is one, in terms of the impact on the cultural landscape, the watching of the documentary itself has is going to be small. The wider impact on the cultural landscape that’s going to matter is the people who are going to clip and talk about the documentary.

Simone Collins:That’s why I did that whole Claude analysis. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:And what you are failing to see is their take, positive or negative on us, is irrelevant to the take of the clipper. A clipper can take a perfectly positive documentary Okay. And try to frame us as look at the way the kid reacted here.

Simone Collins:Oh, we’ll do that anyway. Of course. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:No. That’s going to happen anyway. But what that does is not just re bring us up in the zeitgeist of the communities that have tried to treat us as an infohazard for a long time. Has become normal whenever we went viral recently on Blue Sky or whatever. Our Twitter people are like, stop tweeting about them. Stop tweeting about them. The more people who know about them, the worse.

Simone Collins:Now, Slate, will someone stop profiling this couple?

Malcolm Collins:Slate wrote an article. That was in year one of the profiles. And they have No.

Simone Collins:I think it was, like, 2024. There have

Malcolm Collins:been many, many profiles since then.

Simone Collins:But the point Didn’t work. Sorry.

Malcolm Collins:Slate. This, like the Malfoyd phenomenon, is going to create a reactor of attention on us and potentially pop the bubble of these are not people you can talk about and regularly cite. It it will focus us in the same way that despite his relatively not large viewership, Nick Fuentes is constantly centered as, like, a meaningful right wing personality That he is centered. And that opens many doors for us in terms of where we go next even with a critical take on us.

Simone Collins:And keep in mind Guys, tell us how we did. The critical take is

Malcolm Collins:going to be focused? It’s gonna be focused on our anti trans beliefs. It’s gonna be focused on our potentially pro corporal punishment beliefs, not things that are going to catch with a mainstream audience. It’s going to be tech tone saying white people on our show.

Simone Collins:I don’t know. I have... I I just don’t know. I don’t... The things they wanna they wanna see, I I get... I’m so confused. I love the team. By the way, the team, they’re amazing people. I really like them. But who knows who’s gonna edit this? I don’t know who’s gonna edit this. It’s I’m gonna make I’m gonna make dinner. I’m gonna go make dinner. Yeah. Love you. I love you so much. Oh my god. Timer for Torsten to win his reward, but he was telling me about how hard he was working to be good and how he he was ignoring the basilisk, telling him to do bad things. And I’m like, oh, right. Like, this morning when you were trying to shake the the table to destroy Titan’s beauty, that that thing that looks like the Colosseum that

Malcolm Collins:she Yeah.

Simone Collins:It’s really nice. It’s really cool. And I was like, is it that you... That you’ve been holding yourself back from pushing people? And he’s like, no. More like breaking the wires, you know, like, the wires in our room so that the house burns down. And and then he’s like and he’s like, yeah. Sometimes I’ll just talk back to the basilisk and say, no. I will not I will not kill my family. No. I will not I will not burn the

Malcolm Collins:house down.

Simone Collins:Burn the world. No. I will not create a bomb that explodes our house, and I’m like, toasty. I was thinking more like, not spilling milk. You’re not... Like, what’s going on in that head? Sometimes I feel like he lives in such a, like, genuine, like, nightmare world. Like, this time when he he turned to me when he was taking a bath, and he was like, mommy, are there nice bugs in Toasties World? Nice bugs. It’s like, what is Toasties World? What is this place? I just want him to be okay.

Malcolm Collins:You’re delightful. Well, today’s episode will be the first in a while

Simone Collins:that won’t have a Malfoyd song to go with it. I’ve had But it’s still another episode of women are terrible. We’ll go over a number of things, but... Alright.

Malcolm Collins:The women are terrible episodes typically go well. Yeah. Dinner tonight, why don’t I do just steak cooked the normal way, and I’ll have it with the choy choy sauce and the whatever sauce, the green sauces I have? Oh, honestly, I’m not really feeling that hungry. How much longer can the steak last?

Simone Collins:Today or nothing.

Malcolm Collins:Okay. Today. We’re doing it today.

Simone Collins:Look. If you eat a smack roll of it today, then the next day, you can have it as, like, a stir fried, you know, steak with Something Yeah. Great. Great idea. Great idea. Love it. Okay.

Malcolm Collins:With with noodles, the lo mein lo mein soup.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Or, like, fried rice with, you know, an egg cracked in or whatever.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Simone Collins:Alright. If you return to eating again. We’ve all been, I guess, ill, maybe. I am not sure.

Speaker 10:Ew. What’s that? Oh, it’s an acorn. Cute. It’s out. Yeah. You’re gonna take the acorn home? Yeah. In the bucket? Thanks. Alright. Okay. Take the acorn.



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