Join us on Based Camp today for a detailed discussion on vulnerabilities in US voting systems, including same-day registration without ID, vouching rules in states like Minnesota, challenges verifying citizenship, and risks with deceased voters on rolls. The conversation examines real-world examples and state policies that make exploitation possible, along with broader implications for election integrity.

Simone and Malcolm review evidence from hidden camera investigations, compare rules across multiple states, and address why certain safeguards remain absent despite ongoing concerns. They also touch on related topics like enforcement gaps and the impact of immigration on voter rolls.

Show Notes

We fell down this voter registration rabbit hole because someone posted this video to the Based Camp subreddit.

Minnesota

Minnesota has a same-day voter-registration vouching rule whereby a registered voter in the same precinct may legally vouch for the residence of up to eight otherwise-unregistered voters; all they need to do is sign a sworn oath that they personally know each person lives in that precinct.

What “up to eight” means

Minnesota Statutes § 201.061 permits a voter to establish residence at the polls through a registered precinct voter’s sworn verification. The basic requirements are:

* The voucher must already be registered in that precinct.

* The voucher must personally know that the applicant lives in that precinct.

* The voucher signs an oath in front of an election judge.

* The applicant also signs an oath regarding identity and eligibility.

* An ordinary registered voter may vouch for no more than eight people in one election.

For reference, the “voiched-for” person:

* Does not need to have a photo ID: They can either provide a drivers license/ID number *or* the last four digits of their social security number

* Minnesota’s Secretary of State says that every voter registration is verified against Department of Public Safety, Social Security Administration, and other records, and specifically says Election Day registrations—including registrations using vouching—are verified by local officials after the election.

* The Secretary of State says a discrepancy found in that process is referred to local law enforcement for investigation and possible prosecution

* Note: While MN has prosecuted people for submitting registrations using fictitious identities and information, nobody has been prosecuted for this.

* Does not need a document proving residence

What James O’Keefe Did

In the video, O’Keefe and affiliated reporters asked Minneapolis-area poll workers whether a registered voter could bring in multiple people without ID and vouch for them. Workers reportedly explained the eight-person limit and the residency requirement; in one exchange, a worker said he could return with additional people until reaching eight.

Problem with what James O’Keefe did is he gave another man’s information to poll workers, without this guy’s knowledge or consent.

Other States That Allow Same-Day Registration Without ID

Minnesota is distinctive because it lets a pre-registered local voter’s sworn oath substitute for the new registrant’s documentary proof of residence, allowing a regular ballot rather than automatically requiring a provisional one, HOWEVER

* Other states permit unregistered people to show up and register-and-vote on Election Day without necessarily handing over a government photo ID

Some are OK:

Maine, Virginia & Michigan

* You can fill out a provisional ballot without an ID that gets counted unless officials determine the person was ineligible.

Some are less OK:

Colorado

* You can vote even if you don’t have a government ID *or* the last four numbers of your social security number, you just have to indicate you don’t have them on a form

* According to the National conference of State Legislatures, “Colorado developed its own electronicpoll book system that is networked to communicate with the statewide voter registration database in real time. All jurisdictions have access to the system to check that a new registrant has not registered or voted in a different county in the same election.”

* THIS DOES NOT CHECK FOR CITIZENSHIP: The real-time electronic-poll-book function in that quotation is primarily a duplicate-registration / double-voting control: it lets Colorado election officials see whether a person has already registered or been issued/cast a ballot elsewhere in the state for that election. It is not, by itself, a real-time citizenship-verification system

* Colorado does not generally require every registrant to submit documentary proof of U.S. citizenship, such as a passport, birth certificate, or naturalization certificate. Its normal framework relies on the citizenship question and signed attestation, along with registration-list maintenance and database checks.

Hawaii

* According to the National conference of State Legislatures,“To register, applicants must provide their Hawaii driver license, state ID, last four digits of their social security number, or voter ID, which will be confirmed when received by the clerk’s office. Applicant makes a sworn affirmation that they have not voted and are qualified to vote. Any applicant providing false information may be guilty of a Class C felony pursuant to state law.”

Vermont

* Generally people can register and vote the day of an election without a photo ID

* A registrant must identify themselves and/or provide required documentation under the registration rules

* A post-election audit can identify people registered and voting in more than one town BUT THAT ASSUMES AN AUDIT IS CONDUCTED AND THAT THAT PARTICULAR VOTE WAS AUDITED

States That Don’t Require Voter ID For Already-Registered Voters

14 states and D.C. let already-registered, in-person voters cast a ballot without presenting an ID document under their ordinary poll rules. These states use measures such as signing a poll book or affidavit, stating name/address, comparing a signature to the voter file, or checking a registration list. They include California, D.C., Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Vermont.

Citizenship and Voter Registration is SCARY

The United States lacks a single complete database that can instantly verify citizenship for every person.

States that are actually careful about ensuring citizenship are the exception, not the rule.

As of the cited 2026 state-policy summaries, five states were expected to require documentary citizenship proof from all people registering or updating a registration for the 2026 midterms:

* Arizona

* New Hampshire

* South Dakota

* Utah

* Wyoming

Louisiana also had a requirement enacted but not yet implemented. Rules can be subject to litigation, implementation dates, and federal-form limitations, so “law on the books” and “operative procedure” can differ.

States that don’t require documented proof of citizenship would need to cross-check against the Department of Homeland Services’ Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (aka SAVE).

* a SAVE non-match or failure to verify cannot be treated as conclusive proof of noncitizenship; election officials must do further verification and allow the affected person an opportunity to respond before an adverse action

USCIS’s expanded SAVE program became more available to election officials in 2025. The Bipartisan Policy Center reported that 22 state election offices had SAVE information-sharing agreements as of December 2025; later reporting described roughly 26 states with agreements completed or in progress.

* An agreement means the office may be able to make citizenship-related queries; it does not establish that the state automatically checks every new applicant, runs the full voter roll, or cancels registrations solely on a SAVE result

* So that means roughly half of states HAVE THE ABILITY to check for citizenship, but whether they actually do is another matter.

Some states have publicly announced that they check for citizenship, namely:

* North Carolina

* The State Board announced in April 2026 that it would check citizenship of all registered voters against federal databases to identify and remove ineligible noncitizens.

* Texas

* Reporting says Texas election officials uploaded the full voter-registration list to SAVE for mass verification.

* Tennessee

* Likewise reported to have uploaded its full voter roll to SAVE.

* Utah

* SB 300 requires the lieutenant governor to register with DHS’s SAVE program for voter-list-maintenance purposes.

* Kentucky

* 2025 legislation authorized use of SAVE to verify citizenship of people in the statewide voter-registration system and required cancellation procedures subject to the law’s safeguards.

* Idaho

* Since March 20, 2026, people registering through the BMV must provide citizenship documentation or have already provided it.

* Florida

* Adopted a 2026 law scheduled for January 1, 2027: applicants whose citizenship cannot be verified through the DMV must receive notice and have 30 days to supply proof.

The Dead Voter Problem

A useful benchmark from voter-registration research is that if the mortality rate among registered voters is roughly 1% annually and deaths are removed once per year, the average deceased record would remain on the roll for about half a year.

A deceased person may remain on an active voter roll temporarily because:

* Death data can take time to reach the state vital-records agency and the election office.

* A voter may die in another state or abroad, complicating matching.

* Name, date-of-birth, or address differences can prevent an automatic high-confidence match.

* Officials must avoid falsely removing a living voter who happens to match a death record.

* Federal and state law impose procedures for maintaining and removing voter records. The National Voter Registration Act permits removal upon death, but the actual workflow is administered by state and local officials.

In 2015, Pew estimated 1.8 million deceased people still on rolls nationwide

They also estimated 24 million inaccurate or no-longer-valid registrations.

As of April 2026 in North Carolina, a federal-database comparison identified about 34,000 apparent deceased matches on the state voter roll, pending record verification and proper removal.

So in states without voter ID requirements, you could theoretically show up and vote for a dead person so long as you know about them.

How We See Voting Differently Now

Basically, if people are present in a state, whether or not they’re citizens, whether or not they’re registered to vote ahead of elections, they might vote.

Episode Transcript

Simone Collins:Hello, Malcolm. I’m excited to be speaking with you today because it turns out that you can mess with elections much more easily than I thought, and I’m kind of freaking out. And everything I thought about secure voting just just fall it’s falling out the window.

Malcolm Collins:Because I wanna show people just to start here. We’re going to do one video.

Speaker 17:And no ID needed. I just vouch for them. Well, you’re the ID, sir. I am the ID. They do not need ID. She says, you are the ID. He is the ID. So I am the ID. The vouching. Yep. The vouching court. Yeah. I vouch for them. Oh, great. Is that okay? Brad. Yes. How does that work? Well, if you’re all in the same precinct Yes. And you are already registered, which looks like you are, you can vouch for them as ID for them. Oh, good. And no ID needed. I just vouch for them. Well, you’re the ID. I am the ID. That’s good. Can can I bring five more from Up to eight. Up to eight people? That’s a good thing. We go back and we get Krishna and Ernesto and Mohammed. Success. Great success. We go in, and they tell me that I can vouch for up to eight people. Come back. We vote. They say no problem. No ID needed. They’re registered. No problem, they say. So that worked.

Malcolm Collins:And in this video, what you can see very clearly is they the election people cannot see who these people are who are voting. It could be anyone in a burka.

Simone Collins:Well, because literally, yeah, like, they they have people wearing burkas.

Malcolm Collins:And one male is allowed to just vouch for as many other people as he wants to and say it’s okay that

Simone Collins:he No. No. To eight, Malcolm. Please. Let’s be reasonable.

Malcolm Collins:Up to eight. And then in this next clip

Speaker 15:Is it okay if I’m, you know, if I’m not a US citizen, it’s okay for me to go? All I know is you’re registered. So I’m here. As long as I’m registered, can vote. Right? Yes. Perfect. Well, you have your ID with you? I didn’t bring it. That’s okay. That’s Last name is Maschelli, m a s h e l I. Uh-huh. And the name Afshin. Yeah. You’re in here. It’s in there. Yeah. So I can vote today. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 16:Both of these non citizens from Iran, a country we’re at war with, are also on the Department of Homeland Security’s worst of the worst list.

Speaker 15:Last name, please? Last name, h a r I t a s h. First name, Fazlola. Yep. This is the right place.

Speaker 16:One of them is still incarcerated for felony child sex crimes.

Speaker 15:So so I have a felony. I’m a sex offender. As long as my name is there. If your name is here, can call.

Speaker 16:Michele admits into a hidden camera on primary day in Dearborn, Michigan on August 4 that he’s about to vote.

Speaker 15:Your name is mister Ashen Michele. Right? That is correct. Are you interested in the vote? Yeah. We’re going a little bit later.

Speaker 16:Despite being a non citizen. And Michigan poll workers on August 4 were happily prepared to hand these non citizens voting ballots.

Simone Collins:Yeah. In the next clip, they demonstrate that there are people who are planning to vote that are felons, registered sex offenders, and What does he need?

Malcolm Collins:Buddy, to do this, what we need to do is to add money to your account, and we can do that later. Okay? Alright. Mommy will add money

Simone Collins:to your account. Done his seven lessons?

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Done your lessons yet?

Simone Collins:That he promised to do. And is he in the kitchen because Eric and Ellen are going to get there soon? Yes.

Malcolm Collins:Go back down to the kitchen and wait and do your lessons.

Simone Collins:I’ll put my own money on this so

Malcolm Collins:But he likes Mudpuppy.

Simone Collins:Yes. He does. He absolutely does. Right. So in the second video, they also tried to see if it was possible for people who were active felons, who were sex offenders to go and vote, and they confirmed that they were. They even stopped at one of the guys’ houses, and he’s like, yeah. I’m I’m gonna vote later today. Like, no problem. You know, people actively checking the names. Yes. You can vote here. Oh, but I’m I’m a felon. Not a problem. You can vote here. And and that’s what a lot of the the focus of this particular particular citizen journalistic action was in a very bombastic way to to shock. And what state did this take place in? This all happened in Minnesota. So let me explain. Minnesota, the the first thing that was being shown, Minnesota has the same day voter registration vouching rule, which might explain why it has come to be like it is, which allows a registered voter in the same precinct, like the same sort of, like, neighborhood area as as dictated by, like, the way things vote. They can legally vouch for the residents of up to eight otherwise unregistered voters. All they need to do is sign a sworn oath that they personally know each person lives in the precinct. So in other words, it’s like, hey. I brought a friend. Can they vote? And they’re like, oh, well, do they live in your same precinct? Yeah. Okay. What’s your proof? Trust me, bro. And, like, that’s supposed to work. And

Malcolm Collins:this is really bad in these large immigrant communities that don’t care. Right? And I think that what we’re now seeing, and the reason I wanted to focus on this as an episode, is there was this period where mentioning that election fraud might be possible in The United States, or widespread was such a taboo that the people who mentioned it were, like, immediately deplatformed.

Simone Collins:Yeah. We used to call it election wobbles on YouTube because we we felt like we couldn’t use things like terms like voter fraud or anything else. And now when you look at the evidence,

Malcolm Collins:now that the the dam is finally open and we’re not seeing a strict of censorship around this, the evidence is so comically demonstrable. Like, even without any sort of proof or anything like that, anybody who is remotely sane would see a system like this and be like, that system is extremely vulnerable to exploitation.

Simone Collins:Well, and, again, it’s it’s telling that this is in Minnesota, the same place with the leering center, the same place with very serious issues around other forms of fraud. And and that’s what makes me so worried about it. And that, like, I’ve I’ve often asked myself, how has Minnesota come to be like this? And then I see how their election rules work, and I’m like, okay. But, anyway, let’s let’s I I actually wanna shed a little bit more light on this than with

Malcolm Collins:Well, it makes the fight that they have had and the Democrats have had against IDs seem because I think when people hear the rules against IDs, they’re like, yeah. But, like, how bad could that really be exploited? How bad could because that’s even the way I felt.

Simone Collins:I was Malcolm, it’s worse than that. If you would let me get into it, though. Okay. But it it’s important that that you understand the actual process because what he did was show up and pretend to be someone that he wasn’t, which is not great. James O’Keeffe pretended to be a a resident in the precinct that he showed up in to film this, which is is kinda not not the right thing. And a local news station actually found the person that he pretended to be and was like, that was me. And I I don’t know who this person is, and I didn’t give him permission to pretend to be me. Because the way it works with this this

Malcolm Collins:thousand Now we’ve gotta be chasing down the people finding out that they’re breaking rules.

Simone Collins:Well, I mean, in the end, he was able to vote that day anyway, and there wasn’t a problem because they detected the issue or whatever. But, anyway and then he he didn’t James O’Keefe, who made that video and up pretending to be that guy, didn’t actually vote. He was just trying to demonstrate that they would allow him to. So he didn’t sign any sort of attestation. He didn’t get other people to vote under false pretenses, but he did kind of like it was it was hurting him. But, anyway, what you have to do is the the voucher, the person that James O’Keeffe was pretending to be, has to already be registered in the precinct. This is why he had to assume the identity of someone who has actually vote registered to vote in that precinct. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have been like, yeah. You can do it. they also have to at least claim that they personally know that the applicant lives in the precinct, then they sign an oath in front of an election judge, and the applicant also signs an oath regarding their identity and eligibility. And then an ordinary registered voter can vouch for only up to eight people. But, again, what James O’Keeffe was trying to point out was you could bring the same person eight times wearing a burqa Yeah. And have them pretend to be different people who are not actually present in voting, and you could get away with it, which is very scary. The person who is vouched for does not need to have a photo ID, and this is another reason why it’s so easy to fake. They can either provide a driver’s And it’s on our account. So Can you tell Octavian I think it’s wonderful that he’s excited about what you built, though.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. My puppy.ai.

Simone Collins:It’s legit. Cool. Anyway, they don’t need a photo ID. They can they can provide a driver’s license or ID number, or they can provide the last four numbers of their Social Security or the last four digits of their Social Security number. And Minnesota’s secretary of state says that every voter registration is verified against Department of Public Safety, Social Security Administration, and other records. And specifically says that election day registrants, like the ones who are being vouched for, are verified by local officials after the election. And they also say

Malcolm Collins:that fully verified that they exist and are on the rolls, but anyone could do that. That’s why they, in LA, do that thing where they troll, like, homeless people to get their names.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Give them cigarettes and stuff to to register to vote.

Speaker 7:But do you think who do you think these people are with the ballots? Are they, like,

Speaker 8:political They’re working for political parties. Yeah.

Speaker 7:They are.

Speaker 8:They are. Right? That’s obvious.

Speaker 7:Oh, for, like, Democratic parties or

Speaker 8:or We don’t ask if they don’t tell.

Speaker 7:Don’t ask if they don’t tell.

Speaker 8:But we know that they gotta answer to somebody by what they said. Don’t it up if it’s not authentic. I don’t wanna have to scratch it out. And don’t let your signature look like the other signature. Can you use your other hand, or can you write with your foot or

Speaker 9:your nose?

Speaker 8:I’m serious.

Speaker 7:They ask you to do that? Yeah. The balance.

Speaker 8:And I’ve done it just so I can get the money and add it up to put my.

Speaker 7:Yeah. So how many

Speaker 8:But I had

Speaker 9:a month on my bank. That

Speaker 8:that is no joke.

Speaker 7:How many balance would you sign at once? At

Speaker 8:least, like, if I was lucky, four or five.

Speaker 7:Four at a time?

Speaker 8:Or five. It depends on everybody if they need to hurry up and fix it.

Simone Collins:The secretary of state also says the discrepancy that’s found in this process is referred to local law enforcement for investigation and possible prosecution. The problem being that I tried to search for any example of someone being prosecuted for submitting registrations using any sort of fictitious identity, and nobody has been prosecuted for this. And so this could be an issue of, like, the rule exists, but is it ever enforced? And you’re gonna see this is a pattern with other states and other issues that makes me extremely worried. And there are quite a few more than I’m comfortable with other states that have same day registration without ID. Though Minnesota is an the worst of this because they will let a a preregistered local voters sworn oath substitute for the new registrant’s documentary proof of residence, meaning that and and they also get a regular ballot. In many of these states where it’s more reasonable, like in Maine, Virginia, and Michigan, if you’re doing same day registration, you can fill out a provisional valid ballot, and you can even do so without a photo ID, which is already crazy. You can you can provide the last four digits of your Social Security number only, But then you’re you’re doing a provisional ballot, which means that it’s a kind of ballot in The United States where it’s kind of held back until some checks are made to make sure that that you haven’t submitted your vote through some other means. Like, for example and this is another thing that’s kind of shady. For the the past two elections, Malcolm and I have, for various reasons, requested absentee ballots where they mail your ballot to you and then you mail it back ahead of the election to make sure that if you can’t make it to the poll that day, your vote is still counted. Somehow, weirdly, suspiciously, every election cycle, one of us has been missing a provisional or sorry. Our our mail in mail.

Malcolm Collins:And it doesn’t come in the mail, like somebody’s going through a mail.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Either someone’s going through our mail or it just somehow never made it to our house. And so that means that the the person who didn’t get their ballot shows up to the polling place on election day, says, I would like to vote. And they say, oh, well, you’re you’re put down here for a mail in ballot, so you need to fill out a provisional ballot. And that only gets counted once they are sure that our mail in ballot hasn’t been sent in, which is kind of scary because if someone just stole and then faked our mail in ballot, then our provisional ballots would be rendered null, which is screwed up. It’s that’s another I mean, I also get why mail in System seems scary.

Malcolm Collins:To for for fraud.

Simone Collins:Yes. Though at least what I’m trying to say is in Maine, Virginia, and Michigan, at least they are filling out provisional ballots, and then at least they’re they’re checked before they go. However, in Colorado, you can vote even if you don’t have a government ID or the last four numbers of your Social Security number. So, like, you just have to check a box being like, I don’t know. I don’t have any of my info. Like, this is my name.

Malcolm Collins:Just

Simone Collins:take it or leave it. According to the National Conference of Social

Malcolm Collins:Security need an ID? You can just vote?

Simone Collins:No ID. No proof of residency. Not even the last four digits of your Social Security number.

Malcolm Collins:Do they they try to match you to a real person, or they just take your vote?

Simone Collins:So what they say is they developed their own electronic poll book system that’s networks to communicate with the statewide voter registration database in real time. And then if they see, like, your exact name having already been registered as someone who voted, then they’ll be like, you voted twice. But one, it doesn’t check for citizenship. It it just checks to see if there’s a duplicate registration or double voting. And, also, they don’t generally require every registrant to submit documentary proof of US citizenship, like a passport or a birth certificate. So you can just be like, here I am. No Social Security number. No no license. I’m gonna vote and, like, register and vote today out of absolutely nowhere. Thank you very much. And as long as your name is not on This is so bad. It’s it’s kinda scary in home. No.

Malcolm Collins:But I I want to like, what I really want to emphasize with this is you in the right or whatever these days can be like, oh my gosh. Like, look at how crazy what they’re doing is blah blah blah. You need to understand that this is why things like what Nick Fuentes is attempting is so dangerous, stupid, and self destructive for our side. When he’s like, oh, I’ll just destroy it and have democrats make things so bad. No. They set things up after they’re in power so you can structurally never win again. This is why you can never have a right wing EU or a right wing UN or a right wing WHO.

Simone Collins:Well, this is something that’s really sad. We we’re seeing this now with elections in Sweden where, oh, hold on. Actually, give me a moment, please. Because I I just was looking at this this morning, and I was like, oh my god. Right. So I was just reading this post this morning by Evelynne Han on X who wrote, at this point, there’s only a 0.4 percentage point difference between the right and the left in Swedish parliamentary election. That is a difference of 32,000 votes in favor of the left. During the right wing government, they handed about approximately 200,000 citizenships predominantly to Middle Eastern and African immigrants who almost exclusively vote for the left. If they hadn’t done that, they would have won. There is a lesson to be learned here. And I I can I can send you a picture of the graph if you wanna see it? But it’s just it’s super clear that in in states or in countries where you have heavy immigrant populations or where it’s even just possible, whether they’re citizens or not, for people who are more likely to depend on the government for payouts, which is going to be a leftist progressive thing.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. I I mean, I think more broadly, what the right needs to learn is shut down immigration waves entirely and make it very uncomfortable to be an immigrant in these countries.

Simone Collins:Yeah. It’s it’s that that’s kind of my big takeaway from all this is that it can no longer I mean, I already knew, for example, before okay. It doesn’t work to only, you know, get allow in people who or, like, citizens who are are, like, taxpayers and everything. And then if if you’re not, then you can’t become a citizen or you you can be an immigrant here but not a citizen. Because now it’s clear to me, if you are an immigrant here and you wanna influence elections, it doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not, like, sort of based on how everything works. But, anyway, more on same day same day registration. In Hawaii, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, quote, to register, applicants must provide their Hawaii driver’s license, state IE, or last four digits of their Social Security number or voter ID, which will be confirmed when received by the clerk’s office. Applicant makes a sworn declaration that they have not voted and are qualified to vote. Again, trust me, bro. I’m qualified to vote. Any applicant providing false information may be guilty of any class c felony pursuant to state law. Maybe. Basically, if you’re caught, you’re in trouble. But Maybe. If you’re not caught, I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe. Vermont. and, generally, in Vermont, people can register and vote the same day of election without a photo ID. You have to identify yourself and provide required documentation under the registration rules. But a post election audit is the only thing that’s going to find something wrong. So, allegedly, if they if they run an audit and they find that people registered and they’re voting in more than one town, then they would, like, stop that double vote. But this is Sue’s assuming that there is an audit, and I don’t think there’s always an audit. This is also assuming that the audit spot checks that particular vote that was placed twice, and then that’s a lot of ifs. And then it’s yeah. I mean, to the point When you look

Malcolm Collins:at all this in conjunction with Democrats fighting so hard to prevent voter ID laws, which is obviously just a racist policy. Right? Like, the idea that, like, black people can’t figure out. But it’s not racist because they don’t really believe it. What they want is cheating. Like, they want cheating. Right? That that’s the only reason you could still have this view in 2026.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Right? No. And there’s a there are 14 states still that even now do not require any form of ID if if you’re a registered voter. That includes California, DC, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Vermont. So, yes, of course, friends and you know what it is. I actually felt so weird showing up to vote in Pennsylvania every time we go. And I’m just like, oh, my name you know, like, my name is Simone Collins. And they’re like, okay. Go ahead. And like, do you need to see my ID? And they’re like, no. And I always I have to ask every time because I’m so uncomfortable with it. I’m like, this is not okay because someone could show up and say that there’s Simone Collins.

Malcolm Collins:What’s wilder is, like, remember when Mondami tried to do the the socialized food thing, and then immediately he started wanting to ask for ID? And then they bent over backwards because they realized how bad that looked, that you needed an ID to use his his socialized food system.

Simone Collins:Oh, yeah. And then they’re like,

Malcolm Collins:oh, s**t. We can’t. So they they said, a a a library card will work. Right?

Simone Collins:Like and if Like, library card?

Malcolm Collins:Why don’t we have library cards for voting? Why is that more restrictive than the voting

Simone Collins:process for president? That is really funny. I I kinda feel like our process of trying to get library cards where we live has been a little bit harder because you have to show, like, a utility bill. And they’re they’re pretty strict about it. Yeah. Actually, it’s kinda weird.

Malcolm Collins:Who pay for their utilities. That’d be a good start.

Simone Collins:I need to get new library cards. I’m gonna put that in our calendar. Yeah. Oh, yeah. People who pay for their utility. Yeah. Honestly, what scared me, I would say more than the James O’Keefe video, was what I learned about citizenship and voter registration, though.

Malcolm Collins:Oh my god. What?

Simone Collins:What I didn’t know is The United States lacks any complete single database that you can use to instantly verify someone’s citizenship. Like, there’s no, like, Malcolm Collins, is he a citizen? Yes. No. Like, that doesn’t exist in our country. So it’s already now very difficult for, let’s say, like, someone who who wants to maintain election integrity to to check these things, which is is very scary. And as of, like, at least one-sided 2026 state policy summary, five states were expected to require documentary citizenship proof from all people registering to vote or updating their registration as of this year’s midterms, just Arizona, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming. Louisiana also had a requirement, but it’s not yet implemented. So those are the only states that are super duper making sure that the people who are registering to vote are citizens. And states that don’t require this would theoretically need to crosscheck against the Department of Homeland Services systematic alien verification for entitlements, like, database. Yeah. It’s called SAVE for short. And even that, though, isn’t that conclusive. So if you get a nonmatch in this database, SAVE, you would still have to check other things because it it can’t be treated as as conclusive proof. You’d have to look do further verification and allow the person an an ability to, like, make a corrective action. So there is that one database save. But the first issue is I think a lot of people don’t wanna use it because they’re not totally sure if the results are gonna be conclusive. Like, you’d have to just do more work. And you know how it is, like, with any system where there are bureaucrats, they don’t wanna do work. So anything that requires extra work, they’re not gonna do. So if SAVE is not a definitive database, I think a lot of people just aren’t gonna use it. And this is actually shown by the number of states that even have contracts with this database to use it. So the this SAVE program became more available to election officials only in 2025, only last year. I don’t know what was going on before. I I don’t I I didn’t figure that out yet, but the Bipartisan Policy Center reported that 22 states’ election offices had the save information. Like, they had an agreement with them, basically, data agreement with this database as of the end of last year. And now, apparently, around 26 states have agreements that are either in progress or completed. So that’s roughly half of the states in our country or even set up to potentially query this database to check to see if someone might not be a citizen. This is already a complete mess. Okay? And oh my god. I just They just don’t care. It’s set up for cheating. That’s crazy. Even though they have agreements, this doesn’t mean that they are able to to make the the queries. It might not be set up yet. Like, keep in mind when we what we saw with Doge was, like, a lot of agreements were set up. A lot of people were, like, paying for services and APIs and subscriptions that were completely not being used. We don’t know if the state is automatically checking every new applicant using the system. We don’t know if it it runs the full voter roll through the system. We don’t know if it it cancels registrations based on the results that it gets. So all this means is that roughly half of the states have the ability to potentially check for something that could mean that they’re citizens or not, but it doesn’t actually check. So some states have publicly announced they do check for citizenship. So shout out to North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Kentucky, Idaho, and Florida. They they are they all have different versions of checking, and some use the DMV. Some use save. Some are going through existing voter rolls. Some are just going through this with new voter registrants, but that’s not a lot of states. Okay? I rattled those. It was one, two, three, four, five, six. This is not a lot. And so long story short, we we don’t really check to see if someone is a citizen. And, apparently, it’s super complicated to see if someone’s actually citizen in our country.

Malcolm Collins:Make it super complicated to enforce the law and incredibly easy to break it. Like

Simone Collins:That’s yes. Yes. Very well put. You articulate it way better than I can. Yes. And I think one of the other issues too is that I I I went through I think it was a Brookings institution report. I’m like, why there are so few instances of, noncitizens, voting? And and their sort of TLDR for that was, well, they don’t wanna break the law and then get deported. But I feel like maybe one of the bigger issues is it’s really hard like, how are we even going to know when noncitizens are voting? Like, how are they checking this stuff? Because it actually is kinda hard

Malcolm Collins:to check. For this? Like, is this actually something that’s happening in, like I

Simone Collins:mean, that’s the other thing. Like, the the big theme of this year was like, hey, man. We shouldn’t be enforcing enforcing our our immigration law. That’s With the states

Malcolm Collins:where we know that somebody should be deported because they’ve, like, raped someone, they are actively preventing the law from being enforced. Why would we not expect it to be enforced here? Like, this is wild to me that you would actually believe that these people would get deported for this.

Simone Collins:Yeah. And then we we have the dead voter problem, which I didn’t know about until you and I attended this one conservative conference as speakers in Las Vegas. And I had this moment in the, like, VIP speaker room where there were there was, like, free stuff that we could pick up. And one of the free things was a hat that says, when I die, don’t let me vote democrat. And I just sat there staring at it for, like, several minutes and,

Malcolm Collins:like Trying to figure it out.

Simone Collins:Picked it up, and you’d, like, chuckled. And I was like, I do not understand. What does it mean? And you were like, Simone. Simone. Do you understand that people are taking the voter registration of dead people and voting for them however they want? And I’m like I mean, you saw

Malcolm Collins:what Doge was able to find in the registration for, like, old people. Like, one person was, like, 400 years old supposedly and still collecting insurance. Right?

Simone Collins:Like It’s like the dark version of Blue Zones.

Speaker 10:You know, there’s crazy things like we we just cursory examination of social security, and we’ve got people in there that are a 150 years old.

Malcolm Collins:Raven Kennedy bragged about doing this in a famous joke.

Simone Collins:Really? And he said, have to

Malcolm Collins:go to

Simone Collins:because of X Cemetery. Oh, that’s cute. That’s cute. I mean, now, yeah, now when I see the hat, because we did take one, I I I chuckle. I actually I saved that hat in our Halloween box, and I was like, oh, we should, like, have a republican Halloween costume. And so I have it with, like remember when we bought that shotgun hunting costume set? Like, the shotgun came with, like, a little hunting hat and, like, whistle and stuff. And the kids never wore it because they can’t bother to, like, put on clothes ever. But I thought it was like, oh, this is a cute hunting costume.

Malcolm Collins:Oh, they never wore it because you hid it from them. Or If

Simone Collins:you combine that, it’s it’s in the Halloween box. If you combine that with the hat, like, it looks they look great.

Malcolm Collins:The last time you gave them the Halloween box?

Simone Collins:The just yesterday. We decorated early.

Malcolm Collins:And they and they wore the things in the Halloween box? You let

Simone Collins:them know. We’re we’re no. They’re gonna trick or treating them.

Malcolm Collins:So then

Simone Collins:you can’t blame them for not wearing it. Well, no. No. No. It was out for a very long time, the the clothing that went with the gun, but they only cared about the gun, the the shotgun, because, obviously, that’s the fun part. They didn’t care about the other stuff. Anyway, I think they’re a very good combo. I’ve kept the hat. Now I get what it is. But, anyway, a useful benchmark from voter registration research is that the mortality rate among registered voters is roughly one percent annually, and deaths are removed once per year. So then the average deceased record would remain on the roll for about half a year, and that’s assuming everything works as efficiently as it possibly could.

Malcolm Collins:Oh, and that’d be a really easy way to get tons of names you can use to vote.

Simone Collins:100%. It’s like, okay. Here we go. Let’s let’s like, this is our list. Let’s go. A deceased person could remain on an active voter role temporarily because death data can take a long time to reach the state vital records agency and the election office.

Malcolm Collins:And you’re in a burka, and there’s nothing they could even do. Even if they caught that somebody was

Simone Collins:Yeah. They can’t be like, take off your well, and also, like, if they don’t require an ID No.

Malcolm Collins:But I mean, like, once you voted, how are they gonna find you? How they gonna track you down, you know, after you lie about this?

Simone Collins:No. No. Totally. Also, a voter could die in another state or abroad, and that could make the the matching take even longer. Also, your name and your date of birth or address could be different from what it was on voter rolls, and that could prevent an automatic high confidence match. And then also officials have to avoid falsely removing a living voter who happens to match a a death record. And there’s a lot of sorry. Legislation to protect people on voter rolls to, like, not remove them. And so that can make it harder for people to clean out the junk. Like, I really feel like maybe we should have people register on an annual bay like, the default should be you’re not registered to vote and you can’t vote unless you plan to vote, but it’s not that way. and, also, federal and state laws also, they impose procedures for maintaining and removing voter records. So you can’t just have some firm, like, come in and clear everything out. You have to have a bunch of bureaucrats breathing down their necks while you do it. The National Voter Registration Act permits removal upon death, but the actual workflow is administered by state and local officials who are like, no. It has to be done in this weird pedantic way. But, anyway, to get a picture of how many dead people are still on voter rolls, this is over ten years old. But in 2015, Pew Research estimated 1,800,000 deceased people still on roles nationwide, and they also estimated 24,000,000 inaccurate or no longer valid registrations. And then as of April 2026, just in the state of North Carolina because apparently, people aren’t looking at this very frequently. It’s all, like, isolated one off things. But in North Carolina, a federal database comparison identified about 34,000 apparent deceased matches on state voter roll records pending verification and proper removal. Note that North Carolina also is the first state for the Democratic Oh, really? Presidential primaries. Right? Also, recall that the the two states that were up for this were North Carolina, I believe, and then Colorado. Both states that are pretty damn lax when it comes to voter registration. So I don’t know. Maybe it’s a coincidence. I’m not I’m not schizophrenic enough to say that that’s a coincidence, but I’m kind of, like, I’m just observing that that might be a thing. But, yeah, basically, in states without voter ID requirements, you could just show up and then vote for a dead person so long as you know about them. And, you know, I’m sure that there are ways, especially now with AI, to, like, pretty efficiently know. Here are all the dead people. You know, get your group of people together. And what I can say from my experience running for office in this state is that democratic operations are not short of manpower. Like, when when I went to turn in my Paid manpower too. You hate manpower yourself.

Malcolm Collins:You did all the the petition.

Simone Collins:Oh, yeah. I had to I had to get signatures to get on the ballot in the first place, like, a certain number, and I I collected them largely myself. A bunch of people helped out too, but I was, like, for weeks on end, waddling around in adult diapers, heavily pregnant in the cold January weather, collecting these signatures. And I had to deliver them, you know, personally after all that pain, after the dogs chasing after me to and so I show up, and then there’s, like it was either three or four people for my Democratic incumbent opponent. He was nowhere to be seen, and he also had not collected a single signature himself because I went through his his signatures and, like, you have to record who collected the signature.

Malcolm Collins:And the whole thing, top to bottom, was I mean, the the level of, you are fighting. If you are a right wing individual in America, in Europe, one, donate to individual orgs. Donate to individual politicians. Do not donate to the RNC. But two

Simone Collins:Yeah. A community of.

Malcolm Collins:Like, they they yeah. But you are an individual ant against a giant corporate machine.

Simone Collins:Yeah. But, mean but, also, like, it just seems to me that there’s this glut of, like, I’m just saying warm bodies that could show up at polling stations wearing burkas if they wanted to. I’m not saying that they are. And, I mean, I I do think that to pull off what we’re insinuating you can pull off, where you have to, like, you have to know the people who aren’t first, you need to find people who are dead or, you know, unlikely to show up at a polling station so you can take their place, basically. Like, you have to be kind of sophisticated about it.

Malcolm Collins:Not that sophisticated in the age of AI.

Simone Collins:I know. In the age of AI. And I I I think it’s it’s possible. And this the one thing that the that the Democratic Party, I think, has over Republicans is they have a lot of warm bodies capable of doing this thing where you could have them show up at a bunch of different polling stations and precincts so as to not raise suspicions and then say that they are people that they are not and provide the last four digits of their Social Security numbers and be just fine. And I I do find that very disturbing. And I just yeah. The the big thing for me is, basically, if you have residents in a in a state, it does not matter if they are if they are citizens or not. It does not matter if they are felons or if if they’re alive in some cases. They may be used as voters. And I just really wish that we had the voting system that you described a long time ago where, like, only proven net tax contributors or child contributors, which should count as Yeah. As as you know, you are contributing a future taxpayer. So that should count as, like, every every up until the age of 18, you get counted for, like, a certain number of annual, like, tax dollar contributions even if you’re not working. That only net taxpayers or future taxpayer contribution or whatever should be allowed to vote. I wish we had that system because the system as it is now, I just feel like it it is almost an embodiment of the tyranny of the unemployed. If you are if you are not contributing to society, you’re gonna show up and vote. And, also, there’s no there’s no limit to that. There’s no show me your ID. There’s no register ahead of time, show an some kind of modicum of of preparation or effort. It really disturbs me. I’m I’m very scared. But I’m grateful that someone posted about this in the Basecamp subreddit because apparently, Nux talked about this two weeks ago, but I don’t know how I missed it. So it’s important to talk about.

Malcolm Collins:Well well, this is insane. I mean, it’s something that people in our community are talking about, but I I want to emphasize the reason it’s come out sort of all at once is because companies like Google were keeping the damn on by not allowing people to talk about potential fraud Yeah. Which allowed it to get to a case that when it just became demonstrable, like, wait. You can just do this? Right? Like, people were like, wait. This seems so egregious. Like, incrementally, we should have caught it before it got to this level.

Simone Collins:Well, what’s disturbing though is even now, even today with this stuff coming out, even with James O’Keefe doing what he did, the news story I saw about saw about this

Malcolm Collins:Was about how dare James O’Keefe’s uncovered? James O’Keefe pretended to be

Simone Collins:a man he wasn’t to prove a point. How dare he? It wasn’t like, by the way, do you know you can do this?

Malcolm Collins:Because this is really messed up.

Simone Collins:It was like, oh, no. He didn’t follow the exact rules. He did he did this was this just looked down upon behavior. I don’t even think what he did was necessary. I don’t know. Maybe impersonating someone is illegal, but he didn’t actually vote or register anyone. So I don’t think what he did was illegal. I think it was just kind of like, that’s a little bit creepy. And it’s like, well, isn’t it a little bit creepy that it’s super easy to actually commit voter fraud? But then the Democrats are

Malcolm Collins:fighting to make this harder. He’s on the side that’s fighting to make it so you can’t do this. Yeah.

Simone Collins:Yeah. I don’t like it. I don’t like it. I don’t like that, like, all sides are are are basically trying to move toward monarchies that that We have to.

Malcolm Collins:It is the only solution to they don’t want voting to matter anymore, which they obviously don’t, look at what the democrat whatever socialist party they’re fighting

Simone Collins:The democratic socialists of America. You can look at their platform online.

Malcolm Collins:Presidency. They’re fighting to remove the senate. They’re fighting to remove the judiciary. They want to turn the American government, and and and they want to make it so that felons can vote. They wanna make it so that illegal immigrants can vote. They they basically want to lock it in so you create a system where they can’t lose like they have in the EU and the UN. And, the people who think, oh, we’ll just let it get this is like the Nick Fuentes thing is is like, I can’t believe that he genuinely cares about America or American values. Because if he did, he would understand the threat that we are fighting against right now. and the not just that we’re fighting against, but what a good job the Trump administration has done. Well, they haven’t pushed back as far as I would want. Every time they’ve come into office, they’ve incrementally pushed further than anyone thought was possible. What Doge was able to accomplish was beyond what I have ever seen any administration accomplish in my lifetime. Just shutting down look at what’s happened after they shut down. What was that word called again? Oh, USAID. USAID? Look at the wave of right wing governments we’ve had in Latin America. Look at the collapse of the rap industry. That was one thing that don’t know if you’ve seen this, but there’s Press the big green button and tell me what you want to make like cookies, pizza, pancakes. What? It’s my vibe coding AI is testing Mudpuppy.

Simone Collins:Oh. Pancakes.

Malcolm Collins:I should make the kids AI app for kids. Mudpuppy. AI that we’ve been experimenting with. I’m getting it to do better recipe generation for kids. But, anyway,

Simone Collins:democracy ending, Latin American shutting down USA.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. and wrap. So there’s been a thing recently. Wrap. Yeah. What? That it looks like the rap industry might have been subsidized by USAID in other countries and that rap may not organically be a popular form of music given the collapse we’ve seen in the industry after USAID collapsed. We’ll probably do an episode on that at some point.

Simone Collins:That seems like correlation, not causation, but we’ll see. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:There are some uncomfortable correlations, especially if you’re looking at rapid overseas markets. Not necessarily in the American market, but in overseas markets, almost certainly, there was heavy promotion. And and and this is what we’re looking at with a lot of these orgs. You know? You’ve gotta you’ve gotta be aware when an organization when a government when a power wants to destroy your value system, your society, like, that’s what we’re seeing, and fighting back against this must be totalizing.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know. I yeah. We’re we’re I think we’re headed no. We’re probably not. I want I was gonna say I think we’re headed towards something different because I’m seeing both people on the left and the right and, like, low culture and high culture all saying, basically, democracy is a joke. It’s not a thing. All of this is made up. We it it doesn’t work. It’s broken. But then I also look at the system that we’re we’re up against, the inertia. I just don’t see how it can change. We had this base camp meetup this past weekend where at one point in the call, we were talking about that. Like, we were talking about repealing women’s right to vote in in light of Lindsay Clancy here. But, like, I think any changes to voting are not not on the table. Nothing. Nothing can change. Aside from possibly some kind of shift in voting to allow noncitizens to vote. Like, the the DSA’s recommendations around voting, like, noncitizens being able to vote and felons being able to vote, I could see that happening. I could see the system getting looser and worse, but certainly not stricter at any point. No no more restrictions on voting, and that is very disturbing. I mean, do you how could this how could it go any other way? We we need to fight back. Fighting back against entropy is

Malcolm Collins:Fighting back against entropy means we need to be open to using the same types of tactics that they want to use. And they have signaled at the level of Kamala Harris that they want to use.

Simone Collins:I feel like the only way to to do this is to start

Malcolm Collins:new the supreme court. She has said she wanted to change the way voting works in The United States, and they’re even fighting against voter laws. Right? Like, they want to fight. They want to cheat. That is part of their platform. Right? Like, we cheat. When we point out something like this, they’re like, how dare you point this out? When we point out something like this and we put up reasonable solutions, like voter ID or at least the, you know, library ID or at least something, it’s no. And yet they implement this when Mondami opens his food. There you you’ve got to be unwilling to understand that this is not and I think our side is increasingly understanding this, that they don’t want to play fair.

Simone Collins:I’m super not okay with any of this. I don’t know. Anyway, I’m glad you told me about this. I’m just I’m also not glad you told me about this. Very resentful.

Malcolm Collins:Okay. Love you, did Esimone. Guys, check out mudpuppy.ai if you have kids, trying to make some some cool products for kids, and our fab if you are an adult. And I I told everyone to people, oh, you’re you’re building these chatbot sites with with, you know, not safe for work stuff, and it’s terrible. And it’s like, yeah. But I’m able to fund the money we make on that into making cool apps for kids.

Simone Collins:Right? Like point is education nonprofits are incredibly hard

Malcolm Collins:to make To monetize.

Simone Collins:Yeah. To be financially sustainable. And and, really, you don’t want them to be. You want this to be extremely subsidized, but you also can’t depend on some benefactor to payroll, like, to to sorry, bankroll everything. And so, yeah, this is how it’s done. This is this is entirely legitimate and good. I’m I fully endorse it. Absolutely.

Malcolm Collins:Love you to death, Simone.

Simone Collins:Love you too. Bye, Malcolm. Bye. Add it? Hold on. Oh, no. That would be for my screen. I have to do I can’t I so you can play video. Can you open a PDF? You can’t open a PDF. That’s too bad. Be cool if you could I can I can add that feature actually to open a a PDF, but here? Let me just where’s my desktop? Oh, yeah. Entire screen. Okay. Tell me if you can see this. Can you see this? The the article? Yeah. Okay. I need you to explain this to me. Not only if his is he an active father to his two daughters, but diversity keynotes is outside. Is it what? Daughters. Daughters. Daughters. Who

Malcolm Collins:who I assume they made a mistake. It’s a newspaper.

Simone Collins:No. Because hold on. Oh my god. I’m all zoomed out. Look. Who who are these young girls? Who who are they? Who are these? Who who who Well, let’s ask. I did. And they’re children at their fashionable Dallas home. What what is this? What is this? Who are these people? I remember that desk.

Malcolm Collins:I remember that art. That That’s your dad. One of them looks Catherine, and then the other one looks like Christina.

Simone Collins:His daughter’s not that’s your aunt. Right. That’s Are you saying Cousin.

Malcolm Collins:She would have been around that age, and they likely hung out a lot because, you know, he worked with Dorothy.

Simone Collins:Okay. You think Christina was that close in age to your sister?

Malcolm Collins:She was. They were very close. They were

Simone Collins:famous. So the newspapers just look at that dress.

Malcolm Collins:Oh. Oh, my god. So dumpy.

Simone Collins:Oh my god. That looks like oh, Sale, Moo Moo in mini prints. That looks like what your mom wore when she was pregnant with you.

Malcolm Collins:You are such

Simone Collins:Oh my god.

Malcolm Collins:A

Simone Collins:BIT. Oh, very good. Fascinating. You’re like, oh. We we

Malcolm Collins:got to be now mudpuppy.ai. Everything’s working on it, but the coding feature I haven’t fully tested yet that allows kids to vibe code. But, like, it’s really good for, like, kids because it gives kids an AI interface that they can interact with almost entirely through audio, especially if on the button you click can’t read yet, and that removes the the more complicated options. And so the kid can go and, like, on their phone, have it take a picture of them, have it you know, take a picture of their environment, turn it into images, turn it into art, you know, really, the full AI. Oh oh, I forgot to do the full I’ll have this up by tomorrow. Right now, have the kid able to do recipes by talking,

Simone Collins:And he just asked for noodles. And right now,

Malcolm Collins:he asked for very simple things.

Simone Collins:Like, he asked

Malcolm Collins:for a helicopter, and I was like, well, ask for something more specific. And he’s like, a helicopter with three millimeter rifles.

Simone Collins:Thanks. Machine guns. Aren’t

Malcolm Collins:they in?

Simone Collins:Machine guns. Yeah. He’s look. He knows how to ask for very specific types of Chinook helicopters. So I don’t know. I think he just gets a little, you know, camera shy or whatever when you are asking him when daddy’s asking when daddy is watching. You know? It’s it’s harder to

Malcolm Collins:I’m glad I have him around to see how, like, kids use AI so that I can build better because what I really want is is is my kids to get super comfortable using AI as, like, you know, total AI natives, true AI Absolutely. Yeah. And I think we’re moving there. We’re moving there.

Simone Collins:I agree.

Malcolm Collins:And well, and we’re making the tools so other parents can do it too. Yeah. Oh, by the way, you suggest for the tech tone interview for for what we can talk about? I I I think it’d be really fun to talk about how he plans to raise his kids.

Simone Collins:Yeah. I mean because

Malcolm Collins:he he has his first kid on the way, and that’s like, you know, what is he gonna do for school? Like, homeschool? Is he

Simone Collins:gonna push calls? His answers are like, I don’t know. I haven’t worked that out yet. We should think of other things to talk about too. So I’ll I’ll see what he’s been talking about recently or what he’s talking about this week leading up to the interview because I think that’s more stuff that’s on his mind. That’s how it is with everyone. Right? I mean, like, people are most interested in whatever it is that just came up this week. It could be on Wednesday. Like, something comes up that everyone’s talking about. He’s talking about whatever. And so we’ll have to see. We’ll have to wait and see. Anyway Anyway I’ll let

Malcolm Collins:you get started here. And and, guys, please do check out for kids, mudpuppy.ai, or if you wanna do, like, chat bot scenarios. One thing I’ve worked on a lot with our fab recently is making the free models more obvious because, apparently, people were unaware of them. And the free models are now much easier to use and more obvious, and I increased the quality of the free models we have available. So right now, the free models that you can use on our fab are going to be the thinking equivalent of the paid system on something like Kandi AI. Because somebody is like, well, I can get Kandi for a full year for $50, and I spend more than a month on our fab. And I like, yeah. Because you’re using the frontier models. Why don’t you use the free ones? And then I realized it wasn’t obvious how to use the free ones, and so I was like, no. Okay. I’m gonna make it really obvious how to use the free models. So if you’re really into Kandi AI or Janitor AI, now you can use not just, like, the Hermes three model, but, like, Kimi two for free on our Which

Simone Collins:is a lot better. I mean, the the models they’re using, sometimes I’m like, look. Maybe you’re using okay models and you’re just modifying it in a way that just makes it terrible. I don’t know.

Malcolm Collins:But I’ll I’ll just keep building and building. A

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