#169 After our special live episode with child safety educator Pattie Fitzgerald officially ended, we kept talking so we kept recording! In this bonus episode, we discuss:

• Why we should encourage surprises and ban secrets
• How to react if our child hints that something may be off
• And how we can prevent our children from becoming victims of the next Larry Nassar

Sound-wise, consider yourself a part of the party. Because it was the end of the night, and we were not planning on sharing this, you'll hear parents rushing off to meet their sitters and our little dog Chubs even makes an appearance.

The atmosphere is relaxed, but Pattie Fitzgerald's advice is top notch! And we are so grateful to her for being so generous with her time.

xx Ellie Knaus

Be sure to listen to the main episode for vital information.

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About Pattie Fitzgerald: 

Pattie Fitzgerald has been successfully teaching Child Predator Safety Awareness since 2001. She is the founder and creator of Safely Ever After, Inc. and provides effective, non-fearful safety workshops, seminars, and keynote speeches at schools, community organizations, churches, and corporations throughout the United States. She has trained many crime prevention educators and children’s advocacy groups with her specialized programs, curriculum, and educational materials.

For more details on her work and media expertise, go to: http://safelyeverafter.com/

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