ASYMMETRIC
ASYMMETRIC
Shantanu, Chirag and Revant
Welcome to ASYMMETRIC Podcast! :)We are three friends who will every Friday discuss happenings during the week across startups, business, tech, social and political.The episode will aim to double click on 2nd order insights and So-What's. We will also bring in the best experts in the fields to provide nuance and perspective.If you're an entrepreneur, run a business or generally are curious about how to think about what's happening around you, do tune in :)Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwik📺 A new episode every Friday at 7pm.
Why We’re Pausing & Year-End Reflections
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving CompanyChirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwikAshish Sangle: Co-Founder, Yoso MediaChapters00:00 Intro00:52 Intro & Welcome, Ashish :)02:24 The Real Reason for Pausing05:39 How Legacy Companies Protect the Core12:25 Wealth Creation vs. Conservation16:39 The “Two Houses” Analogy22:55 Does Growth Solve Everything?25:08 Going Public: Ecosystem Incentives37:41 Conscious Capitalism vs. Pure Shareholder Value42:12 China’s Capped-Profit Story45:59 The Tata Model: Ecosystem Building & Trade-Offs49:42 Wrap-Up53:16 So, How Should We Solve This?Follow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Dec 19, 2025
56 min
Helmer’s 7 Powers: Choosing Your Moat Vector in India + AOP Done Right (What, How, When)
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwikChapters00:00 Trailer01:05 Intro02:13 When should a business start making an AOP?05:03 AOP as guidance, not target setting13:17 Seven Powers and thinking in moats20:16 Why counter-positioning fades, and other moat types23:54 Lenskart’s moat28:27 Wakefit’s and Groww’s moats33:00 Do new-age companies need a new framework?36:59 The Indigo fiasco and earned monopoly plus process power43:55 Swiggy QIP and the Q-Comm PR wars48:53 Amazon Now and clean dark stores as a moat52:50 OpenAI code redArticle Link:https://tyastunggal.com/p/7-powers-the-foundations-of-businessFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Dec 12, 2025
57 min
Inside India’s Healthcare Stack: Capex-Heavy Hospitals, Supply Gaps & Venture-Scale Hospital Alts
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwikVarun Dubey: Founder & CEO, SuperhealthChapters00:00 Teaser00:58 Intro & Welcome, Varun02:27 Black Friday: Consumer Behavior Shifts in India06:23 Seasonality in Healthcare09:36 Status Signaling vs. Health Needs12:31 Medication Adherence & Reducing Friction15:56 Why Patients Avoid Preventive Care19:01 The “Legacy” Hospital Model25:25 Why Indian Hospitals Are Artificially Expensive33:52 Unit Economics of Delivering Corporate Care at Half the Price37:48 Operational Innovations at Superhealth46:57 Why Are Large Hospital Chains Not Innovating?51:22 Healthcare Profit Pools: The “30% EBITDA” Standard54:40 The Supply Crisis: India’s 3 Million Bed Shortage01:02:09 Venture-Scale Model for Hospitals01:05:09 User-Experience-First Building01:09:51 The “Tesla for Healthcare” Vision01:14:12 Closing ThoughtsFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Dec 5, 2025
1 hr 18 min
“Indian Consumer at 2030” Report by Fireside Ventures: Channel, Category & Consumer Fragmentation
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Vinay Singh: Founding Partner, Fireside Ventures Nandika Pradeep: Director - Strategy & People, Fireside VenturesChapters00:00 Trailer00:53 Intro & Welcome: Vinay and Nandika02:46 Purpose Behind the Fireside Ventures Report04:36 Overview of the “Indian Consumer in 2030” Report07:48 Will Brand EBITDA Compress in India?09:55 The 3 Cs of Consumption13:30 Talent Shift Toward Entrepreneurship18:01 Defining Consumers: The 3×3 Matrix20:00 Quality of Revenue Framework22:02 Category, Consumer & Channel Adjacency30:30 Should BSC Enter Fragrances?34:02 Gen Z Behaves the Same Across India39:53 China’s Three Epochs & India’s Way Ahead42:22 Pilgrim’s Power-7 Strategy48:01 Need for a Sharper TG52:37 The J-Curve Ahead for Consumer Companies54:40 Building Leadership Pipelines in Brands59:09 Apprenticeship → Shared Success → Redundancy01:03:50 IC Track vs. Manager Track in India01:08:39 Concluding ThoughtsCharts referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dZYVmYl_aGyt7eHivqsZDEig0ULKHZKl/view?usp=sharingFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Nov 28, 2025
1 hr 15 min
Physics Wallah Equation: Low ARPU + Low CAC + High NPS = ₹3,000 Cr Revenue | Alakh Pandey
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwikChapters00:00 Trailer00:42 Intro01:42 Physics Wallah journey: From YouTube to IPO06:25 Thoughts on Alakh's personal brand13:30 The Bharat-first pricing playbook16:20 AI tutors & avatars19:30 Is the Physics Wallah playbook replicable?24:00 Is offline the way forward?30:45 Building for NPS32:25 Real capital allocators & market noise37:15 Founders vs professional CEOsCharts referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ld_VZwX-lBFg1Tv9-0AmfwGPawBt3sYb/view?usp=drive_linkFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Nov 21, 2025
40 min
Bharat Consumer Insights: AI as the Adoption Bridge and Understanding Gen Z & Gen Alpha
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant Bhate: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu Deshpande: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag Taneja: Founder, GoKwikAnand Lunia: Founding Partner, IndiaQuotientChapters0:00 Trailer1:07 Intro & welcome, Anand!1:56 Congratulations to Shantanu on the fundraise!2:40 Kuku FM's 1 Cr paying users4:14 Bharat UX reality & the role of AI9:44 When founders age out of their own users13:37 India is becoming homogeneous16:58 Understanding Gen Z & Gen Alpha21:15 Senior-living gated communities24:03 70% of millennials say they are pro-socialist29:18 Can Bharat subscriptions be cheaper?35:49 AI adoption for Bharat40:00 New-age IPOs, Lenskart & legacy media43:50 Founders should control the narrative before the IPO48:40 The status game54:57 Founders' 2-hour wealth management taxFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Nov 14, 2025
1 hr
Breaking Down India’s SaaS Market: US Dollars vs Indian Distribution, Will Enterprises Buy or Build
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwikKuldeep: Co-Founder, @Last9 Chapters00:00 Trailer01:04 Intro & welcome, Kuldeep Dhankar!03:58 Early CleverTap: painful demos, priceless feedback04:20 Customer Success ≠ Sales09:38 Shantanu’s new board-meeting framework13:33 India’s consumption story is finally evolving21:03 Can you build a $150M SaaS business selling in India?30:12 India ACVs are rising: Swiggy, Zepto, Eternal30:55 Where did the SaaS startups go?35:12 Why aren’t VCs investing in SaaS?37:32 Freshworks’ CAC payback & key lessons45:18 Do VCs want SaaS companies to sell in the US?48:26 The 99.5% reliability opportunity49:50 Software: buy vs. build?1:02:52 The rise of forward-deployed engineers1:12:59 Airports, infra, and India’s compounding optimismFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Nov 7, 2025
1 hr 16 min
Meesho’s Bharat Playbook: India’s Only 4-Sided Marketplace; Unpacking the Design and Cultural Moat
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwikChapters00:00 Trailer 00:57 Introduction 01:52 Meesho’s 4-Sided Marketplace Flywheel 05:50 Why Meesho Deliberately Reduces AOV 11:58 IPO Math: Who Actually Makes Money 19:49 Opportunity for Lenskart? 21:58 Meesho’s Unit Economics 24:00 Shopee vs. Meesho 29:50 How Selection Helps Meesho Creators 34:02 The Operating Lever That Makes Low AOV Work 41:12 Meesho’s Design Choices 43:31 Merchant-First Thinking 47:09 Concluding ThoughtsCharts referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xXcB9DidsIAQJ-4wT2heYksQqFsPp0Ti/view?usp=sharingFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Oct 31, 2025
49 min
Breaking Down India’s IPO Wave 3, The Series C Drought & Happy Birthday to the ASYMMETRIC Podcast
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwikChapters00:00 Trailer00:58 Intro & Happy Birthday to the ASYMMETRIC Podcast01:42 Wave 3 in IPOs is coming05:03 The TRMG RainGauge Index is now beating the Nifty5005:46 Drought in Series C funding08:36 The shift in investor sentiment and market opportunities12:21 The rise of secondary funds18:59 The future of startup funding and IPOs23:50 The liquidity flywheel has started28:36 Traditional sectors vs. startup IPO sizes30:57 Commodities vs. Nifty33:27 AI infrastructure capex and the U.S. growth narrative38:48 How Shantanu asks the right questions without going too deep44:09 Shantanu guesses RB and CT’s personalitiesCharts referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SA2UAE4yfPK-ABQTYeq4DGguPKtLXj0b/view?usp=drive_linkFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Oct 24, 2025
46 min
Deep Dive into India’s Consumption Story This Festive Season: Signalling Changes in Hiring Dynamics
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwik00:00 Trailer01:04 Introduction02:02 A Mercedes every 6 minutes?02:22 Where’s the slowdown under the hood consumption03:47 Long tail D2C compounding faster than FMCG incumbents10:19 Bumper festive signals categories driving growth12:08 Navratri automobile surge 34% YoY growth14:56 Category wise growth numbers17:11 Credit led consumption on the rise20:38 Why brand dot com works in the US not China or SEA26:04 Hiring reality why 15 year veterans struggle unlearning32:06 Entrepreneurship needs a beginner’s mindset37:19 Build institutions bottom up train for culture40:48 SD’s brand archetype42:08 Gen Z’s edge in critical brand thinking52:47 GPT’s engagement KPIs54:15 Bitcoin crashCharts referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SA2UAE4yfPK-ABQTYeq4DGguPKtLXj0b/view?usp=drive_linkFollow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theasymmetriccrew/X: https://x.com/ASYMMETRICCREWLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theasymmetriccrew/
Oct 17, 2025
55 min
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