A.R.T. Artists Real Talk
A.R.T. Artists Real Talk
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We've teamed up with some of our favorite artists, producers, directors and more to catch a deep glimpse into what it takes to turn an artistic vision to reality.
#26 Super Hueman Hustle - A.R.T. Podcast Season 2 Finale
Allison is a very well-known Bay-to-LA (and back) street artist, having been featured on the cover of LA Weekly's People of the Year issue, Juxtapoz Magazine, and many other places. She's also navigated a wide variety of career situations that have informed her work. For our season finale, host Jacob Patterson stopped by her new house in Oakland to chop it up. Warning: we say "hyphy" and "hella" wayyyyyy too many times in this episode.    8:17- Is San Jose the bay area or not?   8:57- Which part of Oakland are we in?   10:32- The Bay responding to the Ghost Ship fire   Read more about the Ghost Ship fire: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/oakland-ghost-ship-warehouse-deadly-fire-gallery-1.2901036   http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-ghost-ship-fire-anniversary-housing-201711202-story.html   13:20- Vince CEO Meow Wolf https://meowwolf.com/author/vince/     15:31- Why did you decide to come back to the bay?   17:08- Jacob ghost riding a car  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQlonDdyUYk   17:25- Andrew bloody gums https://www.instagram.com/bloodygums https://www.instagram.com/abars/   18:18- http://museumca.org/   Allison Hueman:  https://www.instagram.com/hueman_   20:33- Drinkin Smokin West Coastin https://www.instagram.com/drinkinsmokinwestcoastin https://drinkinsmokinwestcoastin.com/   20:39- http://wineandbowties.com/ http://wineandbowties.com/lfposts/feels-is-back/ https://bampfa.org/   21:23- Why move back to the bay?   22:06- Hueman talks about being homeless   23:24- http://www.complex.com/style/2014/05/street-artist-hueman-covers-la-weekly-people-2014-issue   26:52- Hueman talks about how she misses collaborating with people in Los Angeles   28:28- Hueman x Hyperlimbo  http://www.artnet.com/galleries/kp-projects/hueman-hyperlimbo/ https://beautifulbizarre.net/2017/01/18/hueman-hyperlimbo-kp-projects/   Hueman explains what Hyperlimbo means to her   31:31- What do you usually do on your drive from Oakland to LA?   34:04- From UCLA to The Brewery   35:03- Housing at Think Tank   35:57- What was it like at The Brewery? http://www.breweryartistlofts.com/   39:16- Hueman talks about her experience with art and work   39:56- Hueman and legal issues    42:40- Did you go to school for painting or design?   44:06- John Cena https://twitter.com/JohnCena https://www.instagram.com/johncena   44:56- Hueman talks about taking a video game design course   46:15- Monkey Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_(series)   47:19- What kind of things do you do to gather inspiration?   47:52- Larry King By,  https://www.amazon.com/Larry-King/e/B000APHO7C   49:28- Other Peoples Property by Jason Tanz https://www.amazon.com/Other-Peoples-Property-History-Hip-Hop/dp/1596912731/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1523503025&sr=1-1&keywords=other+peoples+property&dpID=41U-BDAYUzL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch   49:41- LA Weekly Shuts Down Abruptly  http://www.laweekly.com/news/los-angeles-news-site-laist-shuts-down-abruptly-8816719   52:57- Humans last design gig being for Playboy   53:03- Were things turned around by then or were you still broke?   53:49- http://www.playboytv.com/   54:57- Jacob talks about Playboy spitting sex positive feminism    55:59- Whitney Kidd Bell  https://kiddbell.com/   Read more about the Dick Pic Show: http://www.laweekly.com/event/i-didnt-ask-for-this-a-lifetime-of-dick-pics-8694867   58:34- Hueman talks about when she started doing murals    1:01:32- Jacob talks about what he used to paint    1:04:31- What kept Hueman from doing murals for years   1:06:42- Art Major  http://artmajorla.com/   1:08:36- http://www.huemannature.com/index   1:10:51- https://www.instagram.com/hueman_   1:12:08- Ritual show by Hueman http://www.huemannature.com/ritual/   Ritual show (teaser) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwzfHNvakoI   1:12:55- Hueman explains what the Ritual show was   1:13:36- Why it was called ritual   1:13:44- Jarell Perry http://www.jarellperry.com/ https://soundcloud.com/jarellperry   Cryptik https://www.instagram.com/cryptk   Vyalone https://www.instagram.com/vyalone   Brandon Monk https://www.instagram.com/monkwood_   1:15:53- Built to Last by Jim Collins https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=built+to+last+book&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=174248083384&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1959214552049865894&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031252&hvtargid=kwd-1038453127&ref=pd_sl_19c99t5uzo_e   The 50th Law by 50 Cent https://www.amazon.com/50th-Law-50-Cent-ebook/dp/B002M41TRU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523505028&sr=8-1&keywords=50th+law   1:16:48- The Room https://www.amazon.com/Room-Tommy-Wiseau/dp/B000CFYAMC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523505065&sr=8-1&keywords=the+room   The Disaster Artist https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the+disaster+artist   1:18:51- Hueman asks Jacob about the different colors he uses in his organizer    1:21:36- Hueman touches on her “ritual”   1:23:09- Jacob talks about writing his to-do list   1:25:41 Jacob talks about how important “Coffeegraph” was https://dtla-weekly.com/coffeegraph-think-tank-featuring-avi-roth/   Recap on Coffeegraph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB2Ak1D0G5U   1:26:25- Dino Nama https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio   1:36:16 When did you realize you could do art full time and how did you balance it with commercial art?   1:37:16- Huemans trip to Europe   1:38:20- How do you curate commercial art opportunities?   1:38:32- How do you know when to say yes and when to say no?   1:41:31- Commissioned work    1:44:23- Are your murals usually always commissioned?   1:44:44- Hueman talks about getting a grant   1:46:35- Do you have anything big coming up that you could talk about?   1:46:41- What do you want, if you could imagine what you see yourself doing within the next five years? 1:52:51- Hueman touches on what tools someone needs to be an artist   1:56:11- Where to find Allison Hueman:  huemannature.com   https://www.instagram.com/hueman_
Apr 18, 2018
1 hr 57 min
#25 Hijinx PR Answers: What Is Art Management & PR?
Heidi Johnson has been putting the coolest art and events in front of the hippest people in LA for decades. In this episode she breaks down where PR and management cross over, how much of this stuff artists should be doing for themselves, and when it's time for you to get a manager. She also lets us in on some secrets of how to get your shit covered by the press. There's a lot of name-dropping in this episode, but every story is peppered with many years of wisdom, and by the end Heidi takes muthafuckas to school so don't miss the second half of this episode. We also share stories on the late Juxtapoz co-founder Greg Escalante since Heidi was one of the people closest to him in his final years. RIP Greg.   6:10- Can you talk about the new stuff you are doing with Corey Helford? http://www.coreyhelfordgallery.com/ https://www.instagram.com/coreyhelfordgallery   9:01- http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-break-bread-think-tank-photos-20160212-photogallery.html   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9RnV2Tfyak   9:16- Scott Hove https://www.instagram.com/scotthove https://www.facebook.com/cakefangs/   12:06- Heidi talks details about herself and her mom Monica Johnson who was a screenwriter and novelist    http://deadline.com/2010/11/r-i-p-monica-johnson-80766/   18:26- Heidi talks about talent management and PR in the entertainment industry    20:27-  Heidi talks about working on Renaissance Man (1994) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110971/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_76   21:44- Being an assistant for Penny Marshall http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001508/?ref_=tt_ov_dr   23:38- Lillo Brancoto http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000969/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm   A Bronx Tale Directed by Robert Di Niro http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106489/   24:32- What are press junkets?    26:01- Heidi talks about Entertainment PR   28:28- https://www.autobytel.com/   30:49- Learning how to deal with clients   31:29- http://js2pr.com/   32:27- Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk Episode #24 with Creative Director Maca https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000407726561   37:31- Define what a publicist is   38:27- https://www.instagram.com/hijinxarts https://www.hijinxarts.com   42:31- Engelbert Humperdinck  http://www.engelbert.com/   43:38- Heidi talks about signing a contract with Engelbert   44:31- Pitching to the Grammys    45:53- Do artists often say no when you have a big idea that can be huge?   47:36- Jacob talks about what Heidi taught him with, “finding the story.”   48:43- When did you start Hijinx?   https://www.instagram.com/hijinxarts https://www.hijinxarts.com   50:46- Robbie Conal http://robbieconal.com   51:14- http://blog.boobsandblood.com   51:36 https://www.jimmahfood.com   51:49- https://www.instagram.com/janedopeness/   52:06 https://www.jimmahfood.com/projects/grrl-scouts/   52:19- GRRL Scouts video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Gt4Jxn3lk   52:54- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCg31PbYx9w   54:51- PR and relationships   55:16- Beyond The Streets  https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/graffiti/beyond-the-streets-an-expansive-exhibition-on-the-global-movement-of-graffiti-and-street-art-coming-to-los-angeles/   56:16- Art Basel  https://www.artbasel.com/   56:46- Heidi talks about her mom passing away weeks prior to Art Basel    1:00:02- Working in LA   1:00:41- Allison "Hueman" https://www.instagram.com/hueman_/   1:01:31- The Brewery Art Colony  http://labrewery.com/brewery/   1:02:10- Hold Up Art Gallery https://www.yelp.com/biz/hold-up-art-los-angeles   http://dola.com/venues/hold-up-art   1:05:31- http://www.laweekly.com/arts/allison-hueman-torneros-the-mad-muralist-4632719 http://www.laweekly.com/arts/its-only-hueman-nature-2614631 http://www.complex.com/style/2014/05/street-artist-hueman-covers-la-weekly-people-2014-issue   1:09:25- How do you judge the feeling of what you should be doing vs what you shouldn't be doing?   1:10:14- Heidi talks about following her gut    1:12:01- What is a manager and why is it useful to have one?   1:14:25- Are managers taking a percentage of everything you make or only off the projects you bring?   1:16:18- Heidi talks about what a manager should do for you– bringing rates up and getting your needs met   1:18:52- If someone is considering managing what kind of things do they need to be thinking about as they step into that new role?   1:19:26- http://www.laweekly.com/arts/street-artist-chase-explores-light-and-space-as-his-pattern-park-debuts-9309607   https://artillerymag.com/events/into-light-space-new-works-by-chase/   1:20:56- Teddy Kelly https://www.instagram.com/teddykelly   https://teddykelly.com/   1:20:56- Heidi explains how working with friends is hard   1:24:22- https://artsharela.org/   1:26:34- https://www.instagram.com/legal_goods/?hl=en https://creators.vice.com/en_us/article/4x9g79/think-tank-la-diy-show-convict-ex-convict-artists   1:28:46- Bobby Moline-Kramer https://www.instagram.com/bobbiemolinekramer/?hl=en   1:28:04- Annie Terrazzo  https://www.instagram.com/annieterrazzo/?hl=en https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIvzEmwkkOA   1:28:41- Heidi talks about being around to see social media emerge    1:30:20- List building   1:31:46- Heidi talks about how important social media is   1:37:26 -https://www.juxtapoz.com/   1:37:35- Odd Nerdrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd_Nerdrum  http://nerdrummuseum.com/   1:38:52- http://seanstarwars.com   1:40:06- Greg Escalante http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/miranda/la-et-cam-greg-escalante-obituary-20170909-htmlstory.html   https://www.juxtapoz.com/news/magazine/rip-greg-escalante-co-founder-of-juxtapoz-magazine/   1:41:50- Corey Helford  http://www.laweekly.com/arts/why-corey-helford-gallerys-massive-10th-anniversary-show-is-worth-a-look-or-two-7313467   1:45:16- https://www.laartshow.com   1:45:35- Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk with Phil America  https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000380950233   1:49:06- Heidi talks about how Greg Escalante has been remembered    1:32:03- https://andybauch.com   1:55:06- Do you have a four or five year path with the LA Art show that you guys are trying to build together? https://www.instagram.com/laartshow/ https://www.laartshow.com   1:59:05- https://www.instagram.com/superchiefgallery/   2:00:26- Do you think this is something artists could do on their own without hiring a publicist?   2:01:46- Heidi suggestion to smaller galleries putting out press releases    2:03:26- Where to find Heidi Johnson  https://www.hijinxarts.com https://twitter.com/hijinxpr
Apr 5, 2018
2 hr 3 min
#24 How to Run the Art Department from the Gods
Maca rode some wild waves while Quest Nutrition jumped to the billion dollar company range, as he built one of the world's best art departments. Part of that was hiring Dino Nama, who is now Think Tank Gallery's Art Director. The two reminisce on what it took to operate on such a level, the difference of running smaller and more mobile design agencies, and break down wtf an art department even is. They also have a lot of inside jokes (just warning you). By the end of the episode we discuss what it would take to really build perfection in a design agency or art department.    7:00- Jacob obsesses over this. Srsly read it. He hasn't played Halo in seven years and still obsessed over it. https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/xwqjg3/the-complete-untold-history-of-halo-an-oral-history   Also this is the JRE #999 with Quest Nutrition Co-Founder:  https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?mt=2&i=1000391132970   10:00- Dino explains who Maca is and why they brought him to the podcast   10:20- Intro to Maca   10:55- Quest https://www.questnutrition.com   11:20- Dino goes into detail about Maca being his mentor and what he taught him   13:13- “Your success does not end at 5pm.”   16:06- Maca explains what he does    16:22- Orcv creative director  http://blvckfish.com https://www.instagram.com/blvckfish/   16:40- The idea of a creative director    20:11- How many teams have you been on? What is the range of sizes on those teams?   21:22- Dino explains what Quest is  https://www.questnutrition.com   21:59- Maca talks about when he joined Quest   23:45- Looking at Quest through the surface    26:25- Jose Prada https://www.instagram.com/infakt   28:03- Dino at what point did you come in? How many people were there?   28:39- What Dino did before Quest   30:38- University of Long Beach http://art.csulb.edu/home/   34:50- Maca talks about his and Dino’s passion projects   35:25- https://www.instagram.com/filebrand/ https://filebrand.com   36:02- Tony Robins  https://www.instagram.com/tonyrobbins/   Gary Vay-Ner-Chuk https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/   38:00- https://blog.adioma.com/how-elon-musk-started-infographic/   39:15- What was the goal for the file project? What would audiences consume?   42:28- Jacob talks about taking on a sales role   43:10- Stance socks  https://www.stance.com/   44:02- http://anna.vc https://blog.adioma.com/how-elon-musk-started-infographic/ https://www.instagram.com/annavitals/   45:29- How would you separate the ideas of art and design    47:52- Design is a problem solving tool that utilizes art   48:10- Story time with Dino    51:50- Dino talks about being a FAKE vegan   56:05- What kind of art did you make before you tried going to college   1:00:05- Sweaty Betty directed by Joseph Frank and Zachary Reed  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4084912/   1:03:57- What does it mean to want to become a designer? What are the things that you need to learn?   1:05:07- Understanding how to carefully craft an image   1:05:33- Did you teach yourself photography?   1:06:47- Eric Kim http://erickimphotography.com   Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk with Eric Kim https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000375908129   1:08:59- Hueman http://huemannature.com   1:11:12- Photography— working without equipment    1:12:55- Jacob asks Dino, what kind of art were you making before hand and have you kept it up?   1:14:29- Dino talks about painting in high school and doing photography in college   1:17:10- Jacob talks about when he used to market himself on social media   1:17:45- Mastery by Robert Greene https://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Robert-Greene/dp/014312417X   1:18:22- Do you feel artwork informs your professional creativity career or do you feel guilty that you have to set your artwork aside to focus on the other jobs you have?   1:20:44- Compromising vs Sacrificing    1:21:07- One of the ways you express your creativity is with allowing yourself to find fulfillment in the tasks you are doing by day    1:25:20- Guilt and trading your time for money   1:25:52- If you had to give advice to someone on how to make their day life fulfilling what would it be?   1:28:08- How did Quest end and how was it fulfilling enough to keep you there?   1:31:03- Define what you mean by the number one art department in the world   1:33:51- Describe to me what the greatest art department in the world would consist of   1:34:11- Maca talks about what will make a great art department    1:36:00- The creative director needs to understand the vision   1:37:31- How can you have more than one creative director?   1:38:45- Waypoint Vice Magazine - Halo  https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/xwqjg3/the-complete-untold-history-of-halo-an-oral-history   1:41:25- How are different departments that are all design departments, all split up?   1:42:03- Co creative directing   1:43:00- Copy writers    1:43:22- Jacob talks about his first marketing job  https://www.deviantart.com/   1:44:14- What is the shift in mindset as you start to grow as a company, taking on more clients   1:44:35- What is the change in mindset to go from a agency that has one creative director to having two?   1:47:21- What does a creative director do?   1:51:05- What is CMO?   1:44:08- Creative Hierarchy   1:51:32- Jacob asks Macs, “what is a design director?”   1:52:05- Jonathan Iva https://www.apple.com/leadership/jonathan-ive/   1:53:06- What are the different things it would take if we are building the ideal agency?   1:58:13- When you envision orcv in thirty years, do you have any products that you guys are selling?   http://blvckfish.com https://www.instagram.com/blvckfish/   1:59:43- When you started this agency, did you have a philosophy for the brand?   2:00:55- Built to Last by Jim Collins https://www.amazon.com/Built-Last-Successful-Visionary-Essentials/dp/0060516402   2:01:35- Maca goes into detail about his story and mission for orcv   2:02:44- http://blvckfish.com/about/   2:05:09- How do you structure that mission?   2:06:33- Jacob talks about how studying Art History helped him   2:08:35- Dino talks about looking at Think Tank in the future   2:09:40- Think Tank being more involved with the community   2:12:45- Jacob asks Maca, “do you feel like it is your job to educate clients when they come to you?”   2:20:40- Debbie Millman design matters https://soundcloud.com/designmatters https://www.designmattersmedia.com/designmatters     Where to find Maca: https://www.instagram.com/macamasse http://blvckfish.com https://www.instagram.com/blvckfish/ https://www.instagram.com/filebrand/ https://filebrand.com   Where to find Dino: http://instagram.com/nunquandormio http://instagram.com/thinktankdtla http://thinktank.gallery
Mar 29, 2018
2 hr 21 min
#23 Decoding the Artist with Yoshino
Yoshino has been a professional photographer in LA for a long time, and during a rut in his personal life and art practice, he started a podcast to re-inspire himself. That podcast is now one of the bigger arts podcasts in the world, and he has built a career and company out of it. In true Yoshino style, he flips the interview and gets host Jacob Patterson to open up about some personal topics and open relationship beliefs he's never shared in public.    6:03- Are you editing your show yourself, or do you have someone else doing it?   7:05- Jacob talks about interviewing people   8:04- Do you have a starting point when you are getting ready to interview somebody?   9:45- Have you been intimidated to interview anybody?   11:04- Yoshino talks about how much research he does prior to interviewing people   12:26- Check out Yoshino’s podcast Artist Decoded  https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/artist-decoded-by-yoshino/id1036675582?mt=2   https://www.instagram.com/artistdecoded http://www.artistdecoded.com/   12:37- Trump Rally Sean Dunne http://www.veryape.tv/trumprally/   Check out Artist Decoded Episode #45 with Sean Dunne http://artistdecoded.libsyn.com/rss   15:12- Psychedelic experiences   17:30- Jacob talks about his psychedelic trip   19:40- Scott Hove https://www.instagram.com/scotthove http://cakefangs.com/   Listen to Artist Real Talk episode 9 with Scott Hove here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379211211   28:32- Do you take psychedelics in a ceremonial way or celebratory way?   31:02- Annihilation with Natalie Portman directed by Alex Garland http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2798920/   33:04- Sphere Directed by Barry Levinson  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120184/   35:10 Jacob talks about how he respects Yoshino for the way he into films with respect and thought   36:02: Yoshino talks about how he has a deep respect for writers and directors of film   36:38- Eyes Wide Shut Directed by Stanley Kubrick http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120663/     37:18- http://www.lacma.org/art/exhibition/stanley-kubrick   39:40- Yorgos Lanthimos  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0487166/   40:20- The Killing of a Sacred Deer  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5715874/?ref_=nm_knf_i2   The Lobster http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3464902/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_3   41:06- David Lynch https://twitter.com/DAVID_LYNCH http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000186/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1   41:19- Twin Peaks http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098936/   42:07- Jacob talks about the first time he realized he wanted to be an artist   43:57- Jacob talks about selling sandwiches for lunch when he was younger   47:41- Yoshino asks Jacob one of the strangest things he’s been asked on a first date   51:49- Yoshino goes into detail about wanting to start a relationship podcast   53:29- Yoshino asks Jacob what makes you want to be in open relationships?    1:05:59- Rebelling against a Christian background   1:07:27- Jacob talks about his new mindset with current relationships   1:08:31- Jealousy Vs Compersion    1:10:05- Chris Ryan  https://chrisryanphd.com/ https://chrisryanphd.com/tangentially-speaking/   Sex At Dawn https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Dawn-Stray-Modern-Relationships/dp/0061707813/ref=sr_1_1_ha?ie=UTF8&qid=1374715948&sr=8-1&keywords=sex%20at%20dawn&tag=vglnkc8015-20   The Ethical Slut  https://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Slut-Third-Practical-Relationships/dp/0399579664/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0399579664&pd_rd_r=RW6DKGKQ05CV4NB1DXPF&pd_rd_w=3NibM&pd_rd_wg=BUERi&psc=1&refRID=RW6DKGKQ05CV4NB1DXPF 1:12:57- What are you working on now, besides the podcast?   1:13:12- Yoshino goes into detail about his podcast and how he met his partner   https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/artist-decoded-by-yoshino/id1036675582?mt=2   1:14:34- Norberto Rodriguez https://www.instagram.com/norbertoinc https://twitter.com/norbertoinc http://www.norber.to/   1:14:41- Quite Mornings event at MOCA https://www.instagram.com/MuseumofMeaning https://www.facebook.com/events/2156119737747892/   1:17:01- Do you guys have a contract?   1:18:47- https://www.instagram.com/nohwave http://www.nohwave.co/   1:19:21- What things do you do for music festivals?   1:20:09- how do you as a producer support Justin when he takes on another project?   Justin Hopkins https://www.instagram.com/rarebitultra http://nohwave.bigcartel.com/   1:23:45- Artist representation    1:22:13- http://artistdecoded.libsyn.com/rss   1:25:43- Meow Wolf https://meowwolf.com/   https://theknow.denverpost.com/2018/01/04/meow-wolf-denver-art-gallery-opening-announcement-2018/171407/   1:30:40 Are you taking commission on sales from these artists?   1:30:55- Do you guys get a cut when you get them show with other people?   1:31:32- Do you promote everything they are doing, always?   1:32:37- How do you make sure your bills are paid every month?   1:33:52- Jacob talks about what is in store for Think Tank in the next few months   1:36:10- Immersive Arts Festival   1:38:10- Nova Han http://novahan.com/   1:38:55- The Chronicles of LA http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-cm-chronicles-of-la-sex-20171130-story.html https://www.thechroniclesofla.com/   1:41:33- Yoshino talks about the vaseline photo sculptures he makes and explains what that entails    1:44:00-Jacob talks about Dinos role at Think Tank  https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio   1:44:55- Phil America http://philamerica.com/ https://www.instagram.com/philamerica   1:46:22- Museum of sex Female Gaze https://creators.vice.com/en_us/topic/nsfw-female-gaze   1:50:46- Yoshino gives a recap of what to expect from Nohwave   https://www.instagram.com/nohwave http://www.nohwave.co/   1:51:59- Artist Decoded https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/artist-decoded-by-yoshino/id1036675582?mt=2   https://www.instagram.com/artistdecoded http://www.artistdecoded.com/   1:52:17- Why does Artist Decoded exist? Why do you want it to continue to exist?   1:53:35- Are you going to keep your hour long episodes structured?   https://www.instagram.com/yoshinostudios http://www.nohwave.co/ http://www.artistdecoded.com/ https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/yoshino/artist-decoded  
Mar 21, 2018
1 hr 54 min
#22 BrokeLA's Anna Shumacher: The Corporate Structure of DIY Culture
cARTel has done many things in the almost-decade that they've been shaping the experiential arts scene in LA. They've hosted fort parties, galaxy art shows with Bill Nye, giant sponsored activations, and been served a cease and desist by Coachella. The latter comes midway through the story of one of the largest and longest running DIY festivals in SoCal, fka Brokechella. Now called BrokeLA, it opens next month and has partnered with Spaceland Presents and the Regent for Anna's first year as the company's CEO. We dive deep into such an evolution, and also nerd tf out on some permitting stuff. This episode is a creative producer's playground.   Permitting survey: bit.ly/permitsurvey http://www.wearecartel.org/ http://brokelafest.com/   11:40 - intro ends/interview begins   12:10 - How did you find your way into permitting?   13:15 - Intro to Anna    13:24 - Did you come from the aesthetic side?   14:10 - Anna talks about cARTel, acting, staging and then combining them together.   15:05 - Visual art    15:55 - Anna buying miller highlife at 19 and dropping the glass bottles from her balcony    16:15 - Anna talks about Theater and the US Davis theater and dance program http://arts.ucdavis.edu/theatre-and-dance   17:05 - Why didn't you go to Berkeley instead of UC Davis?   17:55 - Bay to LA hate   19:11 - How was it being in a college town?   20:02 - Do they have production classes at Davis? How did you find yourself on the production side?   20:50 - http://www.deafwest.org/   22:00 - https://www.broadway.com/shows/spring-awakening-dw/ http://time.com/4062110/spring-awakening-broadway-deaf-west/   23:45 - Anna talks about her intern work at Deaf West   24:00 - Switched at Birth  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1758772/   26:00 - Brokechella  https://www.instagram.com/brokelafest http://brokelafest.com   27:41 - Explain what Brokechella / Broke LA is   Check out what LA Weekly has to say about Brokechella:  http://www.laweekly.com/music/broke-la-announces-2017-lineup-with-james-supercave-crnkn-kyle-kinane-7956324   29:56 - Was cARTel still called cARTel at that point?   30:30 - https://www.instagram.com/neginsingh/   30:24 - In ten years what did you picture yourself to be doing?   31:14 - Was there a theater element in Broke Beast?    32:30 - Family Forest Theatrical Event  http://www.laweekly.com/arts/why-cartels-family-forest-theatrical-event-is-las-best-third-date-idea-2372736   34:56 - YOU ARE HERE ll: Shoot a Cop 2013   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0CkCcvorZ4&feature=youtu.be   36:47 - How as this presented? How many people made stuff?   37:38 - Anna talks about Brokechella becoming really successful    40:20 - Do you have specific strategies to be introspective and make sure year by year the event is being honest for the audience?   42:50 - Deviant art https://www.deviantart.com/   45:45 - Jacob talks about how he started as a YouTuber   46:29 - Listen to last seasons episode with Sarah Penna on business, and the economy of online content: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000377753292   47:20 - How much has Brokechella grown?   47:30 - What was it at, at year three?   47:56 - When did you start implementing sponsors?    48:33 - Jacob talks about Think Tank being sponsored by Lagunitas and how much they support art events https://lagunitas.com/   49:54 - Anna talks about Lagunitas supporting Brokechella and affiliate shows 49:15 - What kind of questions do you ask vendors on your surveys?   52:28 - Anna talks about asking the musicians what it felt like on their stage and if the production team was responsive   53:40 - Break Bread recap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CillPgnnQdk   http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-break-bread-think-tank-photos-20160212-photogallery.html   http://diversionsla.com/think-tank-gallery-break-bread/   http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/02/break-bread-cake-room-scott-hove/   53:59 - Scott hove: http://cakefangs.com/ https://www.instagram.com/scotthove   Bakers Son: http://bakers-son.com/ https://www.instagram.com/bakersson   55:50 - Have you had big important people to the fest drop off because they expected it to go in a different direction?    58:59 - Anna talks about lighting installations    1:00:27 - When did you start to transition from purely collective to more corporate structure?    1:01:50 - Sexy Sax Man  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws   1:02:53 - Adopting a business structure   1:05:19 - Oakland Ghost Ship Fire http://www.nydailynews.com/news/oakland-ghost-ship-warehouse-deadly-fire-gallery-1.2901036   1:06:35 - Do you have different verticals or is it all one thing now called cARTel agency?   1:07:12 - Fort exhibit by cARTel (2011)   http://www.laweekly.com/arts/fort-exhibit-by-cartel-at-angel-city-brewing-brings-childhood-fort-building-fantasies-to-life-2371983   http://angelcitybrewery.com/beer/angel-city-lager/   1:09:24 - Galaxy: Science Art Party by cARTel (2012)   https://www.facebook.com/events/289051367880577/   https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/art/galaxy-science-art-party   1:10:40 - Do you enjoy absorbing the energy of the audience?   1:11:51 - Jacob talks about not being able to chill out at parties    1:13:43 - Oakland Warehouse safety coalition  https://www.facebook.com/OaktownWarehouseCoalition/   1:13:54 - https://vimeo.com/252652909   1:16:23 - Why do permitting at all?   1:20:45 - Los Angeles permitting being disparate    1:24:30 - Westminster** London permitting: https://www.westminster.gov.uk/events-and-filming   1:28:06 - Jacob talks about the cops coming in with squad cars and helicopters crashing an event   1:31:46 - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48319990/the-living-room-tour-bringing-theater-into-homes   http://laist.com/2012/09/25/cartels_living_room_tour_we_are_gathered_here.php   1:34:00 - Art Walk Wrongful Death Lawsuit Settled   http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/art-walk-wrongful-death-lawsuit-settled/article_d81bdc70-bc4a-11e3-9828-0019bb2963f4.html   1:46:05 - https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/things-to-do/popsugar-x-freeform-mermaid-museum   1:46:09 - We couldn’t find any legit baby exorcisms :( please send them to us    1:46:53 - The Happy Place  https://www.happyplace.me/   Candytopia https://www.candytopia.com/   1:47:29 - Dino Nama: https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio   1:51:26 - Tommy Honton: http://tommyhonton.com/ http://themuseumofselfies.com/   Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk Episode 17 with Tommy Honton https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000401724890   1:53:50 - Anna talks about an Immersive project that is in the works– challenging and inverting dreams   1:55:24 - Jacob touches on the theme park industry   1:58:51- Why haven’t you started working in the theme park industry?   2:01:16 - Meow Wolf https://meowwolf.com   Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk Episode 16 with Meow Wolf https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000405182786   Afterlife with cARTel at Angel City Brewery http://photos.snapfiesta.com/Los-Angeles-Photo-Booth/AFTERLIFE-wcARTel-Angel-City/   2:03:28 - Sleep No More https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/   02:05:00 - Cesar Hawas: https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/   Mckittrickhotel:  https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/manderley-bar/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/   Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk Episode 18 with Sleep No More https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000402299664   2:07:15 - How do you make sure to stay true to learning experiences at your events while also focusing on getting the (at times) nearly impossible stuff done that it takes to throw a party? How do you make sure you have that content in there?   2:08:22 - http://www.boomtownbrew.com/   2:12:10 - Dinosaurus art event by cARTel  http://www.laweekly.com/arts/la-children-drew-imaginary-dinosaurs-then-artists-turned-them-into-awesome-installations-4388699   2:12:15 - Jacob touches on 939 Studio    2:12:55 - Ecoset: http://ecosetconsulting.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ecoset/ https://www.instagram.com/ecoset/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGpChIJblwmqAjMwd0yGPA   2:13:51- Burning Man https://burningman.org/   2:14:09 - Overnight festival at Joshua Tree https://www.bigfirefestival.com/ https://www.bigfirefestival.com/faq   2:16:34 - Anna talks about being involved with Burning Man and running shifts   2:16:55 - How does something like Burning Man exist?   2:17:03 - EDC https://lasvegas.electricdaisycarnival.com/ https://twitter.com/EDC_LasVegas   2:22:07 - Stash House Escape House http://www.stashhou.se/   2:24:54 - Have you seen sphere? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120184/   2:25:46 - What do you want in the future for cARTel and Broke La?   2:27:43 - Anna touches on things she wants for the permitting world   2:29:56 - What should people look out for with Broke LA? Why should they go? How can they go?   http://brokelafest.com/ https://www.instagram.com/brokelafest https://twitter.com/RegentTheaterLA   Where to by tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1651689?utm_medium=bks&q=6a6c5d00-2bdb-4ac0-a597-96db7c9990d1&p=b629ec49-919a-4622-997e-ac98b1986492&ts=1520976762&c=ticketfly&e=00827a&rt=Safetynet&h=f4bd62d6592781e38f911b53f08f7622   2:31:47 - What makes it different now that you have the Regent for a couple days?   2:33:32 - http://brokelafest.com/ https://www.instagram.com/brokelafest http://www.wearecartel.org/   PERMITTING SURVEY: bit.ly/permitsurvey  
Mar 14, 2018
2 hr 33 min
#21 The Arts' Ever-Changing Cannabis Landscape with Little Face Events
Katie Carita Partlow of Little Face Events has changed the way that Los Angeles perceives cannabis events. Recognized by such now-household names as Weedmaps and Rolling Stone, Katie is the go-to personality in the weed industry to get a finely tuned message across in an artistic way. She's been called the "Best Pot Party in CA" (Rolling Stone) and she has her sights set high on 2018. If you're interested in doing anything artistic with Mary Jane this year, this podcast episode is the place to start.    6:46- Katie Partlow (Little Face Events) https://www.instagram.com http://www.littleface.events/ https://www.instagram.com/littleface_low   5:53- Katie explains what Little Face Events is   7:06- When did you start this?    14:09- Were you doing events before that?   14:32- https://www.instagram.com/alchemyofwaste http://alchemyofwaste.com/   14:49- Art Share LA https://www.instagram.com/artshare_la https://artsharela.org/abovethestreets/   15:15- How long have you be in LA? Were you doing events anywhere else before you came here?   15:43- What caused you to make the jump from performing to throwing events?   18:49- Katie talks about trying to find the vibe she wanted after moving to LA.   23:21- Do you feel like burlesque has applied to your production life?   26:21- Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk Episode 20 to hear more about Drinkin’ Smokin’ & West Coastin’ https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000404155301   26:39- Katie talks about bad experiences with smoking, and micro dosing.    29:44- https://www.facebook.com/brewhahacomedyshow/ http://www.brewhahacomedy.com/   30:36- How did you get a show at ArtShare as one of the first things you’ve done?   33:31- https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-the-best-pot-party-in-california-w484191   33:46- When did you become dedicated to cannabis?    36:37- Check out Little Face Events “The Afternoon Delight” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRezfVbjKI   39:23- Have you seen any plans for any ongoing restaurants that are introducing cannabis?   41:02- Recreational dispensaries    42:58- Do you focus on making them accessible for beginners or is it a natural side effect to making your events comfortable?   44:20- How have your events had to change as this legal grey area has contracted over and over again during the years of you hosting these cannabis events?   49:09- Does it sound like they are enforcing this rule?   49:34- Have you talked to any authorities on the matter; or mainly lawyers?   50:04- https://sowdenhouse.com/ https://la.curbed.com/2015/10/28/9906764/sowden-house-george-hodel-black-dahlia   51:31- Why do you take away peoples phones?   54:25- Do you come from a long line of potheads or are you the first one?   55:23- Katie talks about her dad being arrested for selling drugs to the U.S Air Force   59:24- Katie gets interrogated by a guy in a ski mask   1:02:53- Jacob talks about when he caught a case   1:04:18- Jacob asks Katie how her mom felt about her getting arrested    1:06:21- Jacob going to anger management for unrelated crime   1:09:20- What is it about cannabis that you decided to dedicate a large portion of your to it?   1:11:31- What is your criminal record now?   1:14:01- People say we should not be rejoicing cannabis being legal when there are people in prison for it still. Do you have any plans to address that issue at all?   1:15:36- Katie talks about how she is looking for people who are dedicated to helping people who are incarcerated for weed-related charges   1:16:43- http://bakers-son.com/ https://www.instagram.com/bakersson https://www.etsy.com/shop/BakersSon   1:17:28- https://www.instagram.com/scotthove http://cakefangs.com/   Listen to Artist Real Talk episode 9 with Scott Hove here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379211211   1:19:47- Is there an active social change going on to re-name marijuana into cannabis?    1:20:46- Have you found people who are pushing to help people who have Marijuana crime record?   1:23:36- Jacob talks about Katie’s events representing freedom    1:23:40- Students for sensible drug policy  https://www.smartdrugpolicy.org/news-analysis/?gclid=CjwKCAiAlfnUBRBQEiwAWpPA6aFUTyonQWV9qAMR0vDlGKEkV8iSACgjK61glbiZDqvMSG1TvzdgbBoCEvMQAvD_BwE   1:24:16- How many events have you done now?    1:26:24- Alanna  https://www.instagram.com/thelostangeleno https://alannayouphotography33.pixieset.com/afternoondelight/   1:27:20- Listen to Artist Real Talk episode 20 for a recap of DSWC’ https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000404155301   1:28:56- When I approached you to be chief cannabis officer for Drinkin’ Smokin’ West Coastin,' what did you think?   1:28:56- Wake and Bake with Roscoe’s  https://www.instagram.com/roscoesofficial/?hl=en   1:29:48- Read what LA Weekly had to say about Cannabis Cabaret   http://www.laweekly.com/event/cannabis-cabaret-8587709   1:31:46- Did you want to theme it after cannabis prohibition?   1:32:42- Why Cannabis in your events?   1:33:16- Katie talks about wanting to take her events to different places   1:35:01- https://www.instagram.com/alchemyofwaste http://alchemyofwaste.com/   1:35:46- How do you get media like Rolling Stone and Leafly to come to your show?   https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/katie-partlow-interview-drinkin-smokin-west-coastin-event-los-angeles-pot-parties-california   https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/afternoon-delight-la-cannabis-events   https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-the-best-pot-party-in-california-w484191   1:36:01- https://www.amandachicagolewis.com   1:37:31- Check out what LA Weekly had to say about Little Face Events Honey Trap  http://www.laweekly.com/slideshow/the-cannabis-cabaret-was-las-sexiest-4-20-celebration-6853269   1:44:34- What is on the horizon for you?   1:44:51- Katie talks about wanting to do a fair event   1:45:54- What kind of people are you looking to partner with for something like this?   1:46:26- Tre Borden https://treborden.com/   1:48:26- http://www.canibanaturals.com   1:48:46- Katie talks about permits for cannabis onsite consumption on fairgrounds    1:49:36- Jacob talks about the benefits of having a cannabis fair   1:51:21- What is more immediate than that? Do you have more afternoon delights coming up? http://www.littleface.events   1:52:52- https://mckittrickhotel.com   1:53:02- Tommy Honton  http://tommyhonton.com/ https://twitter.com/angelalansburyd   Listen to Artist Real Talk episode with Tommy Honton & Noah Nelson https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000401724890     1:53:48- How can people find you and get into your events? Email: katie@littleface.events https://www.instagram.com/littleface_events http://www.littleface.events/ https://www.instagram.com/littleface_low
Mar 7, 2018
1 hr 57 min
#16 Meow Wolf CEO Vince Kadlubek: Changing the Economy Through Art
#repost! We took this episode down to make a crucial cut. If you heard it the first time, enjoy it again cuz it's that good! If you missed it, here's your chance to listen to the world's hottest immersive arts company spin gold through their CEO.
Mar 6, 2018
1 hr 28 min
#20 Drinkin' Smokin' & West Coastin' – A Love/Hate Letter to Los Angeles
We've mentioned the trip that manifested DS&WC at Think Tank Gallery, the show that brought our gallery back into our old venue, but we haven't discussed the process of putting it on. Hundreds of people were involved in producing this massive arts and events series, and four of them sit down after breakfast to smoke a few bowls and talk about it in this episode. If you came to the show you'll love hearing what went into it, and if you didn't you'll love hearing our host's best friends ruthlessly mocking him for a couple hours. Long one but good one.    5:40- Intro https://www.instagram.com/drinkinsmokinwestcoastin/ https://drinkinsmokinwestcoastin.com   6:08- Dino Art Director of DSWC https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio   Danny Heidner Experience Designer of DSWC: https://www.instagram.com/dannyheidner   Andrew Production Lead of DSWC: https://www.instagram.com/abars   Jacob Bitch of DSWC: https://www.instagram.com/jmjpatterson   8:51- What do you guys recall form that crazy month?   10:19- Dino gives a recap of Drinkin Smoking West Coastin   11:46- A group love hate letter to LA   11:58- What is this city?   12:06-Ghost Ship fire in Oakland http://www.nydailynews.com/news/oakland-ghost-ship-warehouse-deadly-fire-gallery-1.2901036   http://www.laweekly.com/arts/in-the-wake-of-oaklands-ghost-ship-fire-popular-downtown-gallery-think-tank-has-been-forced-to-close-8043495   12:59- Listen to Season 2 Episode 0 of A.R.T Artist Real Talk “WTF happened to Think Tank Gallery” https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000401286128   19:16- Stephen Linsley http://stephenlinsley.com/   19:26- Ray Young Chu of Ray Mart http://www.rayyoungchu.com/   20:06- Whitney Bell https://www.instagram.com/kidd.bell https://kiddbell.com/ http://www.laweekly.com/arts/dick-pic-art-show-i-didnt-ask-for-this-has-a-powerful-anti-harassment-and-sex-positive-message-8714873   21:06- Danny talks about the biggest challenge of the show   21:39- Watch the video of Jacob and Danny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Ki14G6sKY   24:14- Check out more of Ray Mart: https://www.instagram.com/StartYourCartwithRayMart   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDsBapD-1Ss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxgfGykxXDY   27:15- Andrew goes into detail on the original idea of Ray Mart   27:46- Bloody Gums https://www.instagram.com/bloodygums   28:06- INPUT Nano leafs installation   30:16- Andrew talks about his time and setting up his instillation for Blood Gums   30:38- LA is still trying to kill me being a smaller version of the bigger show in Chinatown “LA Is Trying to Kill me at Lei Min space.   http://www.lataco.com/preview-la-trying-kill-bloody-gums-pop-show-lei-min-space-april-1st/   33:30- Jacob goes over the two things they didn't use in the show   39:16- Watch the Think Tank x Weed Maps video with Ray Young Chu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_9GUwVv1nM other video?   https://weedmaps.com/   42:46- http://www.laweekly.com/arts/drinkin-smokin-and-west-coastin-is-a-love-hate-letter-to-la-8511955   45:36- Barfly written by Charles Bukowski http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092618/   47:01- Jacob talks about all the good and bad of LA “love hate letter to LA”   47:40- Andrew talks about his part of the show for Bloody Gums   48:24- www.eboy.com https://www.instagram.com/eboyarts   48:31- https://www.instagram.com/gangsterdoodles https://gangsterdoodles.myshopify.com/   48:52- Larsen Sotelo https://www.instagram.com/larsen_sotelo http://www.larsensotelo.com   49:21- Jacob talks about not being from LA   49:53- Sinzi https://www.sinzianavelicescu.com/ https://www.instagram.com/casualtimetravel   Tune into A.R.T Artists Real Talk episode 6 with Sinzi Velicescu: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000378456518   50:26- The truth about LA   53:20- Dino goes into detail about the colors he chose for DSWC   56:56- http://ecosetconsulting.com   1:03:10- https://www.instagram.com/homelesscop http://homelesscop.com Commissions: jason@HomelessCop.com   1:08:03- Dino talks about the retail side of DSWC   1:14:25- Jacob talks about not sleeping and the pressure that came along with the show   1:19:36- Jacob forgetting to put Danny on the list   1:20:25- Elsa Monroe https://www.instagram.com/hellsuh/ https://www.etsy.com/listing/517809363/knowledge-is-a-weapon-patch   1:22:26- Graffiti book release party   1:28:16- Stephen Linsley http://stephenlinsley.com   1:34:58- People thinking the vans shoes in the show were “free.”   1:43:39- Little Face Events https://www.instagram.com/littleface_events/ http://www.littleface.events   1:47:04- Dino talks about the making the DMV promo tickets and leaving them on random cars   1:54:26- Jacob talks about being sponsored by Playboy and the hidden arcade   1:59:34- What was your favorite event?   More coming
Feb 28, 2018
2 hr 46 min
#19 Think Tank Gallery Lied to You: Deception as Art Medium with Firefly Prod.
The last big show that was thrown with the Think Tank was a confusing one, for many reasons. Firefly Productions tricked the Think Tank into producing it, the Think Tank tricked its audience into attending it (#District798), and the actors tricked guests in every way shape and form. By the end, people even thought the weed was fake while they hit it. This show was described as a "mindfuck" by the media, and it encapsulated that word in every way. Whether you caught or missed the show, or caught the show but missed huge chunks of it (we don't blame you), this interview with Steph and Steven of Firefly is a crash course on how to give a viciously original take on priorly used content. Producers will love this episode. Artists will too.   Steven Klein and Stephanie Barnes from Firefly   https://www.facebook.com/FireflyTheaterFilms?ref=ts https://twitter.com/fireflyinc http://steven-klein.blogspot.com/     7:31- District 798 http://www.fireflyinc.com/caught/   8:00- Jacob tells Steven and Steph to give an intro about the last show Firefly and Think Tank have done   More about ‘Caught’ at District 798 http://www.fireflyinc.com/press/caught/   9:10- Steven goes into detail about what Caught is   12:33- http://lamama.org/ http://lamama.org/caught/   Read about what people thought about Caught at La Mama https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/theater/review-its-the-audience-thats-captured-by-caught.html   14:53- Director Ed Sylvanus Iskandar http://www.ediskandar.com/bio/   https://www.broadwayworld.com/los-angeles/article/BWW-Interview-Ed-Sylvanus-Iskandar-Gets-CAUGHT-At-The-Think-Tank-Gallery-20171101   16:20- Who did the rehearsal process?   16:48- Caught being an immersive show and not in a theater   19:43- Did you guys hire an immersive company? Was it Ed’s company?   20:10- More of Tommy Honton http://tommyhonton.com/ https://twitter.com/angelalansburyd   Listen to the Artist Real Talk Episode 17 with Tommy Honton https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2#episodeGuid=4a7dc10479207f5f9e9389bb5dd6e68a   20:33- A lot of immersive theater is associated with horror in LA   21:43- Building a world around theater that is Immersive   24:08-  Stephen Gifford the set designer of Caught/District 798 http://www.stephengifforddesign.com/   28:28- Staff and actors hiding to watch how the audience reacted to the show   29:08- Stephanie and Steve go over the order of the show   30:27- Reactions from theater crowd vs art crowd   30:50- At what point did you approach me in the ideation process; early or right at the end?   31:23- Who was involved in the early stages?   32:39- Had you already discussed whether the gallery would be in on the joke or not before meeting us?   36:00- Jacob talks about the challenges   36:20- Liquor sponsors backing out because they didn't want to compromise relationships from China even though the show wasn't real.   36:42- https://meowwolf.com/   40:57- Stephanie talks about the post show lounge   46:37- “Is this a gallery or a theater?”   47:39- Full Length Play http://www.samuelfrench.com/catalog/search?author=Christopher%20Chen   58:38- Stephanie talks about how the ticketing process was the most challenging part of the entire show   59:20- Jacob tells Stephanie and Steven to share the difficulties within making the show   1:01:23- Generating group sales   1:02:28- How do you market Caught/District 798   1:02:48- Creating an element of exclusivity and an element of getting approved   1:05:08- Five words to describe yourself and five words people would use to describe you   1:07:21- Jacob, Stephanie and Steven talk about how there needs to be an Immersive ticketing service that is customizable.   1:09:51- The ability to text characters from the show   1:11:33- Making sure the whole audience feels like one unit   1:12:45- Then She Fell http://www.thenshefell.com/about/   1:15:20- Steven goes into detail about how instead of feeling betrayed the audience felt safe   1:17:22- Jacob asks Steven and Stephanie, “how many productions have you done in front of a live audience?   1:18:07- The audience had a different energy every night. How wide was the shift from one night to the next, from one week to the next in our show; compared to other live productions you guys have done?   1:22:50- Steven talks about how the people with an Asian background seemed more relaxed vs the white audience who wasn't sure if they could laugh or if it was offensive.   1:25:40- Jacob asks, “was there a difference between the Fridays and Saturdays since some nights were alcohol and some were weed?”   1:26:28- Noah Nelson: https://noproscenium.com/ https://twitter.com/NoProscenium   Check out Artist Real Talk episode 11 with Noah Nelson: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379844107   1:27:23- The talk back   1:31:15- Jacob asks, “what did you learn about the audiences who were coming to the talk back based on them thinking the show was over?   1:36:53- Moving the audience in different environments to dictate how they are supposed to behave   1:38:34- Rafael Hayashi: https://www.instagram.com/rahayashi http://www.rahayashi.com/   Teddy kelly: https://www.instagram.com/teddykelly/ https://teddykelly.com/   http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-caught-christopher-chen-theater-review-20171107-story.html   1:40:53- Jacob describes Steven in one word   1:43:03- What’s next?   1:45:23- Stephen Gifford the set designer of Caught at District 798 http://www.stephengifforddesign.com/   ‘Caught’ starred: Louis Ozawa http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1559194/ Jackie Chung: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2086965/ Jessica Kaye: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2991901/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 Steven Klein: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1635832/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 Eston Fung: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3029513/ Chrstine Lin: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2374936/ Stephanie Barnes: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4043581/ Peter Wylie: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1174557/   The immersive company included Alexis Colianni, Carlo Figlio, Gray Gall, Stacia Marcum, Katie May Porter, Rebecca Rufer, and Alice Victoria Winslow.   Lighting Designer Derrick McDaniel https://thisstage.la/artist-profile-derrick-mcdaniel/   Project Designer Jeffrey Teeter https://theater.calarts.edu/programs/design-and-production/program-faculty/jeffrey-teeter   Sound Designer Crickets Myers http://www.cricketsmyers.com/   Costume Designer Halei Parker http://www.haleiparker.com/   Assistant Director Garrett Baer http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5142370/   Stage managed by Amanda Bierbauer, and the Assistant Sound Designer was Kelly Aburto   In association with: Vs Theatre http://www.vstheatre.org/   Steven Klein http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1635832/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1   Stephanie Barnes http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4043581/   Natalia Duncan Macker http://www.mackerforwyo.com/   Think Tank Gallery https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla/ http://voyagela.com/interview/meet-jacob-patterson-think-tank-gallery-transient/ https://thinktank.gallery/   1:46:36- Jacob asks Steven and Stephanie to close out by talking about the opening of the show
Feb 21, 2018
1 hr 48 min
#18 Running a Creative, Mystical Ecosystem with "Sleep No More"
New York's "Sleep No More" is probably the most successful piece of immersive theatre of all time. But there are thousands of moving parts to this magical machine. Guest Cesar Hawas likes to describe the parts of this creative ecosystem as just that, magic, but there are tons of insights to how an arts company can get such an expensive building and keep it running and profitable. Cesar talks about the more ethereal parts of Sleep No More (run by the production company Emursive) and all of the inspiration that surrounds it at the McKittrick Hotel in our first remote episode recorded outside of California.    5:55 - Cesar Hawas https://mckittrickhotel.com/ https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/ https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en http://lebalrevue.com/   6:01-  The Lodge at the Mckittrick Hotel https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/   7:34- When and why The Lodge opened   8:50- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/   10:05- What are the different experiences you can have in the McKittrick Hotel? https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/manderley-bar/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/ https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/   12:53- Creating complicated experiences   13:36- Film VS Broadway and theater    13:53- Have you done any productions on the West Coast?   14:51- Cesar talks about working on Broadway https://www.broadway.com   15:08- Did you go to theater school?   17:39- Cesar goes into detail about acting   18:28- What was the first moment that you discovered Immersive theater/entertainment?    21:43- Cesar goes into detail about Sleep No More and why it is powerful https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/   22:10- Noah Nelson: https://noproscenium.com/ https://twitter.com/NoProscenium   Check out Artist Real Talk episode 11 with Noah Nelson: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379844107   24:23- The Queen Marry  http://www.queenmary.com/   27:53- Jacob asks Dino (Think Tank Creative Art Director), “when was the first time you were exposed to Immersive Art?”   29:26- What have you been hearing about Star Wars Land?   https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/12/disneys-new-star-wars-hotel-will-seamlessly-connect-to-galaxys-edge-at-hollywood-studios   30:32- https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingimmersive/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE   33:03- Sleep No More’s intention   33:43- How many times have you seen the show?   35:33- Cesar talks about one of the powerful aspects of Sleep No More   38:18- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/   Sara Thacher Walt Disney Imagineering Research & Development  https://www.disneyresearch.com/   40:25- Dino shares his experience at Sleep No More   42:13 Is there any sort of guidance that you guys give on this?    43:31- Jacob’s worst fear   44:27- https://www.punchdrunk.com/   45:41- Cesar discusses following the narrative and the correlation between McBeth and Hitchcock   48:35- Jacob explains how he is happy with his choice of not reading MacBeth before Sleep No More   49:18- Is this the second time the show has been mounted; because it also happened in London.   49:25- Cesar breaks down the history of Sleep No More   https://www.punchdrunk.org.uk/sleep-no-more/ https://americanrepertorytheater.org/node/635   52:20- Sleep No More’s audience    52:44- Cesar and Jacob touch on how there is no dialogue in Sleep No More which making it easy for people of every language to experience and enjoy   54:36- The most exciting aspect of Sleep No More 55:22- Supercinema at the McKittrick Hotel https://vimeo.com/166848947   Supercinema - Clue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2fSsypV34   Supercinema - Wizard Of Oz  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1KMDShfWOc   Read more about the Supercinema parties:   https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/The-McKittricks-Supercinema-Parties-to-Channel-CLUE-Tim-Burton-MOULIN-ROUGE-20161202   http://www.theatermania.com/new-york-city-theater/news/supercinema-to-celebrate-clue-moulin-rouge_78399.html   http://www.theculturefiles.com/supercinema-nyc-guilty-party-clue-tickets/     57:52- Jacob touches on how being a host is a difficult task   58:35- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/candytopia-happy-place-exhibitions-temporarily-close-la-1069964   https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/blog/happy-place-is-l-a-s-latest-selfie-inspiring-pop-up-111817   1:02:47- Inclusiveness    59:09- The Universe is a Small Hat Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bfo3aDD0p4&feature=youtu.be   Learn more here: http://theuniverseisasmallhat.com/   1:04:02- Jacob asks Cesar if they survey people about their experience at Sleep No More   1:08:03- Does the art direction or improvisation of Sleep No More change at all or has it been the same for years?   1:10:11- The Heath https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/   1:11:28- Gallow Green https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/       1:15:11- Colin Nightingale  Creative Producer, Punchdrunk International  http://immersivedesignsummit.com/colinnightingale.html https://www.punchdrunk.com/   1:17:28- How big is the team that is programming ancillary spaces?   1:18:46- Sign up for mailings for upcoming events at McKittrick Hotel https://mckittrickhotel.com/guestbook/   1:19:07- Marketing    1:19:46- Cesar touches on how they haven’t spent any money on advertising    1:23:24- How has the High Line affected the show or has the show affected the High Line?   http://www.thehighline.org/ https://twitter.com/highlinenyc   1:25:05- How involved is Punchdrunk? https://www.punchdrunk.com/     Find more of Cesar Hawas at: https://mckittrickhotel.com/ https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/ https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en http://lebalrevue.com/   Find more of Jacob Patterson at: https://www.instagram.com/jmjpatterson https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla   Find More of Dino Nama at: https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla
Feb 14, 2018
1 hr 27 min
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