Boats passing, waves lapping along the sides of buildings in the city of canals… and I am sitting outside the Icelandic Pavilion, peeking into the Pocket Universe created by artist Ásta Fanney Sigurðardóttir. For this Biennale Exclusive episode, I speak to Ásta about her work and the exhibition she created for this year’s Venice Biennale In Minor Keys, but I also got to speak to Cecilie Ragnheiðardóttir Gaihede, the Director of the Icelandic Art Centre, and the co-curator of Pocket Unviverse, Margrét Áskelsdóttir. I ask them about their roles, what the experience has been like to put together a national pavilion for an international stage, why it’s important to participate in the Venice Biennale as a nation, and so much more.- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/

ALL ABOUT ART TURNED 5 in April !!! On April 2nd, 2021, deep in Covid lockdowns, I decided to launch the pod. Now, in 2026, here we are - with a global audience spanning over 115 countries, thousands of downloads and monthly listeners, collaborations with institutions and amazing cultural professionals, and… A BOOK DEAL.I started this podcast because I had no idea what working in the art world actually looked like. My university wasn’t telling me, career services wasn’t telling me, books weren’t telling me, so I started asking people directly and wanted to record it all.To commemorate 5 years of All About Art AND the launch of my book Working in Art: How to build a career in the art world all within the span of a week, in this special episode, I share five lessons drawn from over 130 conversations with museum directors, curators, gallerists, art handlers, auction house specialists, and more.There’s also a lot I wish someone had just told me a decade ago when I was starting out in the arts, which is, honestly, the reason the book exists. Working in Art is the first book written specifically for people who want to work in the art world but aren’t making art themselves. No equivalent existed when I was starting out, and it should have…. so now, it does 😉- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

What Is an Art Foundation, Actually?The word “foundation” appears quite frequently in the art world, but I feel like most people, including those already working in the sector, would perhaps struggle to define what one actually is. This episode attempted to tackle that definition, and it may have clarified some things, but I also think it made things more confusing. 🤪Inspired by my recent interview with Elisa Nuyten of the Vega Foundation (scroll further down for that episode😇), I got curious about the structural side of things. I cover:What foundations doHow they’re fundedWho works in themAnd where they sit in the broader art ecosystem.I found it interesting to also trace the history of art foundations from Renaissance patronage through to the Guggenheim, the Warhol Foundation, Dia Art Foundation, and Prada Foundation, for example. I look at why foundations get established in the first place (legacy, tax structures, private wealth, artistic mission) and what makes them different from museums, galleries, and artist-run spaces.A final note to this, and why I was motivated to look into it more: because public arts funding has been cut repeatedly in the UK (and elsewhere), foundations are increasingly filling gaps that governments no longer fill.- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

From Collector to Founder: Elisa Nuyten on Building The Vega FoundationIn this episode, I sat down with Elisa Nuyten, founder of The Vega Foundation, a Toronto-based organization dedicated to artists' film and video.I speak to Elisa about what her foundation does - supporting a medium that many of us love but that often exists in the margins of the art world. We talk about her journey from collector to foundation founder, including the practical realities of launching a foundation - the building blocks, the governance structures, and why she chose Toronto and Canada as home base.I ask her about specific works from her collection that have shaped how she approaches the arts today, and why she felt compelled to focus specifically on moving image practices despite - or perhaps because of - the challenges this medium presents for collecting and display. We talk about how the Vega Foundation has evolved over its first three years, the psychology of supporting experimental work, the unseen infrastructure that makes artists' film and video possible, and so much more.Thank you Elisa for coming on the podcast!You can follow The Vega Foundation on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/thevegafoundation/You can check out The Vega Foundation's website here: https://www.thevegafoundation.com/- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

This week’s episode of All About Art talks about money 💶💰💸👛💷✨👩‍💻. The art world - well, in every profession I think, not just in our bubble - only speaks about it in whispers or over a few glasses of wine (if at all) but the silence around salaries and financial sustainability is actively harming people, especially those without a financial safety net behind them. Espeically now, when on last weekend’s episode of Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg on the BBC, Shadow Education Secretary Laura Trott (Conservative MP) stated that the Conservatives plan to stop government funding for "dead-end" university courses (meaning creative arts) if they win the next general election. (Source: Arts Professional)Although this episode was written and recorded before that interview aired, it is still an important listen. Drawing on data from the SML x ArtTactic Talent Report and my own career trajectory, I break down what jobs in the art world actually pay (spoiler: often less than the London Living Wage), why museum roles are structurally inaccessible to working-class applicants, and what the access problem really looks like in practice.I also share practical advice including:the questions I now ask myself before taking on unpaid workhow I managed my budget in my early London careerand why transparency around money is one of the most radical things we can do for this industry.Whether you’re just starting out, feeling stuck in a low salary, or wondering how anyone affords working in culture, this episode is for you.-------If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

The Truth About Art World Careers: Inside Talent, Hiring, & Strategic Navigation with former co-managing partner of Sophie Macpherson Ltd.In this episode, I sat down with Rosie Allan, former co-Managing Partner of Sophie Macpherson, a leading recruitment firm specializing in the art market.I speak to Rosie about her journey into art world talent and recruitment, and what drew her to this particular corner of the industry. We talk about the groundbreaking Art Market Talent Reports that Sophie Macpherson has released over the past few years - research that has sparked essential conversations about working conditions, career pathways, and structural challenges across the sector.I ask her about the UK Employment Rights Bill and what it actually means for people working in galleries, auction houses, and museums today. We discuss what a strategic job search looks like in the current landscape, how the process differs between the US and UK art markets, and what mid-level professionals can do to convince employers they're ready for senior roles.We also talk about career progression in an industry where traditional advice doesn't always apply, Rosie's decision to step down as co-managing partner after years with the company, and so much more.Thank you Rosie for coming on the podcast!You can follow Sophie Macpherson Ltd on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/smlsearch/You can follow Rosie here:https://www.instagram.com/rosieallan_art/You can check out SML’s website here: https://www.sophiemacpherson.com/- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

From Tip Jars to Patreon: Rebuilding Arts Funding from the Ground Up?This week’s episode of All About Art tackles “patronage”, but on the micro scale. You’ve surely seen it before: “Buy me a Ko-Fi!” “Support me on Patreon!” and more - the latter of which you hear every time to tune into an episode of All About Art, because these sites allow your community to show support for the work they love and engage with.So, using FOLLOW.ART’s Support My Practice feature as one of my case studies, I dive deeper into the initiatives helping reshape how creative work gets funded. I explore why these models emerged, what they're replacing, and what it actually feels like to ask for support as a creator, especially when you are juggling so many other platforms (spoiler: it's complicated!).I also share some personal reflections on running this podcast for the last five years, the mental & emotional tax of self-promotion, and why £3 a month from one listener can make all the difference. So, whether you're a creator navigating these platforms (FOLLOW.ART is for curators and artists specifically), or you’re someone who's wondered if those small contributions actually matter, or maybe you’re just curious about the future of creative sustainability, this episode offers a little bit of an overview of where we are and where we might be heading with micro-patronage. You can follow FOLLOW.ART on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/followart.world/You can check out FOLLOW.ART’s website here: https://follow.art/ℹ️ #paidpartnership with FOLLOW.ART- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

How Curators & Artists Are Supported In The Digital Age, with Evelina Gorbačova, Head of Digital Development at FOLLOW.ARTFOLLOW.ART is a platform working to reshape how artists and curators connect in the digital age - You should listen in if you are interested in working at the intersection of art and technology, working at a startup compared to more traditional roles in either tech or the art world, or you are an artist and/or curator wanting to find digital career support online. We talk about the exclusions that curators and artists face in existing digital ecosystems - how they're often left out or underserved by platforms that weren't built with their needs in mind - and how FOLLOW.ART is trying to address those gaps. I ask her about the Nexus Card, a digital identity format that the team describes as "the heart of FOLLOW.ART," and why they chose to build this rather than just another social media profile or portfolio site. We discuss the technical challenges of combining physical art world interactions with digital infrastructure, how the team thinks about balancing accessibility with building a sustainable business, and so much more.Thank you Evelīna for coming on the podcast and FOLLOW.ART for the partnership!You can follow FOLLOW.ART on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/followart.world/You can check out FOLLOW.ART’s website here: https://follow.art/ℹ️ #paidpartnership with Follow.Art- - - - - If you love what we do, support ALL ABOUT ART on PATREON!  ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠Keep up to date on Instagram @allaboutartpodcast  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.SOCIALS: Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasteinackerand LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-steinacker/This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.liser-art.com/ and Luca Laurence https://www.graffitikunst.at/Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein 

The Great Art Fraud: Performance, Pretty Privilege & an $86 Million ScandalThis week’s episode of All About Art dives into one of the biggest recent scandals in contemporary art. It’s based on my recent experience watching the BBC’s The Great Art Fraud, which chronicles Inigo Philbrick’s spectacular $86 million fraud that shook the art world to its core.I discuss a range of factors that led to this happening, from the halo effect and “pretty privilege” to the culture of opacity that still defines high-value art deals. I explore how Philbrick sold a lifestyle as much as he sold art - and how the BBC’s documentary, perhaps unintentionally, keeps that performance of glamor alive.We discuss the gaps in regulation, the role of symbolic capital in luxury markets, and why the documentary’s hero’s journey framing (I explain why I think its framed like this) feels kind of uncomfortably forgiving. Will the art world forget this scandal and engage in art deals with Philbrick in the future? It sure did feel like it towards the end…If you’ve watched the series or are fascinated by the intersection of psychology, performance, and market failure, I would love for you to have a listen & leave a comment to share your thoughts!Image & Media CreditsJay Jopling photograph: Oli Scarff / Getty Images, via Artnet NewsKenny Schachter image: Courtesy of Sotheby’sInigo Philbrick image: Getty Images, via The New York TimesThe Great Art Fraud promotional artwork: BBCAdditional images (if applicable): Courtesy KennySchachter.artImage & Source CreditsThis episode includes images sourced from Getty Images, Sotheby’s, The New York Times, the BBC, and KennySchachter.art. Images are presented solely for purposes of criticism, commentary, news reporting, and education. All copyrighted material remains the property of its respective rights holders. No copyright infringement is intended. Images are displayed at reduced resolution and only for the duration necessary to support commentary.📌 REFERENCE LINKSArtnet News piece on White Cube & Jay Jopling — Artnet News article. Artnet News: White Cube Paris gallery news and Jay Jopling image sourceSotheby’s Sotheby's Brightspot profile on Kenny Schachter — Sotheby’s webpage. Sotheby’s: The Hoarder III: A Moment With Kenny SchachterThe Art Newspaper coverage of Inigo Philbrick’s fraud case (image & article) — Art Newspaper story including imagery. The Art Newspaper: Philbrick fraud case image & storyGuardian article on Inigo Philbrick (Christie’s invoice referenced) — The Guardian coverage of Philbrick’s art world swindle. The Guardian: Inigo Philbrick art world swindle and Christie’s referenceIMDb listing for The Great Art Fraud — BBC documentary info and promotional assets. https://www.imdb.com/de/title/tt38048757/ YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein

The Mind Control of Mount Making with Alex Abbott, Director of DauphinIn this episode, I sat down with Alex Abbott, Art Consultant and Director of Dauphin, a company that specializes in displays and mounts.I speak to Alex about what his company does - which a lot of you have certainly come into contact with but not been fully aware of. Alex does the unseen work of ensuring the objects we view and love in museums, galleries, and homes are mounted with safety and care. That ancient jug you saw last week at the Museum of Natural History? That was mounted and tilted at a 40 degree angle by Alex and his team, but his main objectives are not to impress the viewer with his skills of mounting a work of art or history - his objective is that his work remains as invisible as possible while keeping whatever it is he is working with, safe. I speak to Alex about the artworks he has worked with in the past, including Barbara Heptworth sculptures and suits of armor. I ask him what sort of things need to be considered when consulting on how works of art or objects should be displayed, and also what its like to be director of a company at quite a young age - he took the helm of Dauphin at just 25 years old. We talk about the psychology of displays, the unseen work of mount makers in the arts, so much more. Thank you Alex for coming on the podcast!You can follow Dauphin on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/dauphinacrylic/You can check out Dauphin here: https://www.dauphin.co.uk/YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL ABOUT ART ON PATREON HERE: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart⁠FOLLOW ALL ABOUT ART ON INSTAGRAM HERE: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/allaboutartpodcast/⁠ ABOUT THE HOST:I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations are in contemporary art and the contemporary art market along with accessibility, engagement, and the demystification of the professional art sector.Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out:Instagram⁠ @alexandrasteinacker   ⁠Twitter ⁠@alex_steinacker⁠and LinkedIn at ⁠Alexandra Steinacker-Clark⁠This episode is produced at Synergy https://synergy.tech/the-clubhouse/the-podcast-studio/ COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser⁠ ⁠⁠www.liser-art.com⁠ and Luca Laurence www.lucalaurence.com Research and Creative Assistant: Iris Epstein