Show notes
Nathan Barry (founder of Kit, formerly ConvertKit) joins Tim Soulo to break down one of the boldest rebrands in SaaS, and why it wasn’t just a logo change, but a complete overhaul of identity, voice, and vision.We talk:• Why they spent $260K with a top agency (and what they actually got)• How to design word-of-mouth marketing that actually works• Using AI to scale brand consistency• The Minimum Viable Personal Brand for founders• Building creator flywheels instead of chasing funnels• What Kit learned from celebrity newsletters (Tom Brady, Dua Lipa, McConaughey…)If you care about brand, growth, or building in public, this is the episode to watch.00:00 - Intro00:54 - Why spend $360K for a rebrand? 06:14 - Using AI to stay on brand10:28 - Acquiring a three-letter domain16:05 - Business decisions beyond immediate profit 21:26 - Turning a rebrand into a marketing flywheel26:06 - You can’t script word of mouth. But you can feed it32:56 - Customers as marketing assets42:30 - Funnels vs flywheels and landing celebrity clients53:45 - Delegating like a CEO (but still showing up)1:00:32 - OutroWe hope you enjoyed this episode of Ahrefs Podcast! As always, be sure to like and subscribe (and tell a friend). Where to find Nathan:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarry/X: @nathanbarryWebsite: https://kit.com/Where to find Tim:LinkedIn: (https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/)X: @timsouloWebsite: https://www.timsoulo.com/_______________Referenced in this episode:🔹 PeopleTom Brady — Referenced in relation to Kit newsletter visibilityhttps://www.instagram.com/tombrady/Patrick Campbell — Founder of ProfitWell (acquired by Paddle)https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickccampbell/https://twitter.com/pattycDua Lipa — Musician and creator, newsletter launched via Kithttps://www.instagram.com/dualipa/⸻🔹 Companies / Products / PlatformsKit — Formerly ConvertKit, platform for professional creatorshttps://kit.com/Koto — Design agency behind Kit’s $260K rebrandhttps://koto.studio/Ahrefs — All-in-one SEO and marketing platformhttps://ahrefs.com/ProfitWell — Subscription analytics and retention toolhttps://www.profitwell.com/Paddle — SaaS payment infrastructure company (acquired ProfitWell)https://www.paddle.com/Creator Network — Kit’s recommendation and newsletter growth enginehttps://kit.com/features/creator-network⸻🔹 Books / Concepts“Do Things That Don’t Scale” — Paul Graham (essay from Y Combinator)https://www.paulgraham.com/ds.htmlAhrefs PodcastHost: Tim SouloPodcast Producer: Michelle LindnerIntro Storyboard: Michelle LindnerIntro Video Lead: George DolgikhIntro Video Animations: Ilya YakymchuckFilmed at: Content HQ, Miami #branding #rebranding #marketing #emailmarketing #Kit #ConvertKit #domainnames #customerengagement #storytelling #businessstrategy #marketingstrategies #creatorplatforms #abtesting #directsales #networkeffects #teamprocesses #founderpassion
