] Natalie recently discovered this podcast. We talk about how this conversation came to be.   [05:55] - Natalie shares her ADHD story, starting in childhood.  [14:07] - Natalie recounts her high school years when she continued to immerse herself in music.   [19:10] - After high school, Natalie talks about attempting college, connecting with musicians, quitting college, moving to Philadelphia, and having a baby.  [26:00] - Natalie shares where some of her music has been used.   [28:03] - “Urban Angel” is her favorite album, and she talks about her songwriting style.   [29:53] - On our break, we play one of Natalie’s songs, “Quicksand.”  [34:24] - Natalie talks about her creative process when it comes to writing music.   [39:43] - Natalie’s music has a dark/melancholy tone to it.  She explains how the music allows her to tell her story and bring out things she usually doesn’t verbalize.  [42:28] - In order to get herself into the right mindset and place, she needs to separate herself from her regular life to write music.  [44:25] - Because the amount of time she has for writing is limited, she feels that the pressure actually helps her write music.   [51:08] - Natalie shares some words of wisdom for struggling creatives.  [55:08] - Natalie says that while she hasn’t written songs about ADHD, there may be some indirect relationship between her music and ADHD. She could see herself writing about ADHD in the future.  Use my Audible.com affiliate link for your favorite titles:    ADHD reWired Coaching and Accountability Group  Our summer sessions are now full, but if you would like to join the wait list for our summer season, schedule a call at . In our last three seasons, most of our wait list people were able to join!  Our fall season will begin September 24th.    Support the podcast on Patreon  Patreon allows listeners like you to support content creators like me.  With a monthly contribution, you can get access to different levels of perks.  One perk example is our Patreon-only Adult Study Hall.  Learn more at    ADHD reWired Facebook Group:  If you would like to join the ADHD reWired secret Facebook group, go to  and fill out an application.  Productivity Q&A  Get your ADHD questions answered live!  These Q&A sessions take place on the 2nd Tuesday of every month at 12:30pm.  Go to.  Want to be a guest?  Hey! What about you?  Do you have a story?  Are you a Coach?  Are you an ADHD Clinician?  If you answered yes to any of these questions and you’d like to be a guest, schedule a pre-interview call .