This week I have Pastor Jeff Carlson with me to talk about how we use the term "Salvation Issue" to deflect the importance of controversial topics. Join us as we talk about loving the "other side" better and exploring how we can better communicate in hard conversations. Jeff is no stranger to controversial issues and topics and is a good friend of mine. I am really excited for some of the future episodes we are collaborating on!

I apologize for any audio issues! Turns out the mic was positioned closer to me than I thought it  was. 

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