This conversation with Lucas Zwirner was recorded on the occasion of "Set in Stone", the collaborative exhibition between David Zwirner and Galerie Kugel, which closes on June 26th. In this episode, Adam speaks with Lucas and Laura about growing up in major art-dealing families and why family galleries continue to thrive in the art market. The conversation also explores whether taste can be inherited, the role of art books in our increasingly fast-paced world, and how one should cultivate t...
Jun 18
39 min
In Episode 9 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura speak with the brilliant Felix Burrichter: curator, editor, publisher and founder of PIN—UP: The Magazine for Architectural Entertainment, a first of its kind publication where Felix now serves as Editorial & Creative Director. Recorded ahead of PIN—UP 40, the Spring/Summer 2026 Issue and the magazine’s 20th anniversary, Felix discusses the early days of PIN—UP, what it is like to create each issue from scratch, his collaborations with gues...
May 7
33 min
In Episode 8 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura meet interior decorator, furniture designer, scenographer, and friend of the pod Marie-Anne Derville, who has in recent years become one of the most interesting and widely followed decorators in the industry. Over tea in her wonderful apartment in the centre of Paris, they explore her distinctive and intuitive way of approaching interior decoration and her own practice. Marie-Anne discusses her early days in the world of design alongside Pierr...
Apr 30
36 min
Episode 7 of Handle with Care is really the show’s pilot. Adam and Laura interviewed Louis Bofferding over a year ago, in his fabulous Manhattan treasure trove. Louis is a dealer in art and design, an art historian, and an inimitable storyteller. He specializes in the lesser-known or forgotten stories of artworks and has a rare ability to set the scene and transport you back to the moment an object was made. The trio discuss the cornerstone topic of provenance, not from a legal perspective b...
Apr 23
32 min
In Episode 6, Adam and Laura visited Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn, founder of Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, at her home on 94th Street — configured as part gallery, part entertaining space, and part family home. In her beautiful living room, surrounded by a painting by Julie Mehretu, a table by Diego Giacometti, a steel bow stool by Maria Pergay, and a whimsical ceramic gourd by Taxile Doat, they discussed Jeanne’s views on cross-collecting, the need for a renewed generation of design patrons, an...
Mar 5
32 min
In Episode 5, Adam and Laura speak with New York–based artist Peter McGough. In 2019, Peter published his remarkable memoir "I’ve Seen the Future and I’m Not Going: The Art Scene and Downtown New York in the 1980s", recounting with wit and sincerity the story of his artistic duo with David McDermott, their experience as time-travellers reliving through the Victorian era, and his encounters with Keith Haring, Jean-Michel Basquiat, and Andy Warhol, among many others. In this episode, Peter sha...
Feb 12
35 min
In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time. The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show fe...
Jan 29
39 min
In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today. Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_r...
Dec 4, 2025
39 min
In Episode 2, Adam and Laura speak with the inimitable Pierre Marie. A self-described ornamentalist, he works at the crossroads of artist, designer, and decorator and is a true world-builder. After starting his career designing scarves for the great house of Hermès, he now collaborates with exceptional artisans across ancestral practices to create new objects and textiles. His work spans rugs, tapestries, stained glass, mosaics, and more. In this episode, Pierre Marie shares his singular vis...
Nov 28, 2025
37 min
In Episode 1, Adam and Laura visit legendary photographer Dominique Nabokov at her New York flat. Dominique’s first interior photography series was commissioned by The New Yorker in 1995, when the magazine asked her to capture “portraits” of notable New Yorkers by photographing their living rooms, but free of their residents. The result, later dubbed “interior photography portraiture,” featured the homes of Susan Sontag, Allen Ginsberg, Oscar de la Renta, Diane von Furstenberg, Joan Didion, a...
Nov 18, 2025
32 min
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