In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate whether or not taking a real vacation even exists anymore, and provide tactics for how to protect your off time. Can you ever really fully log off in a world with flexible working conditions? And how can we reclaim PTO?Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:  @PerMYLastEmailShowFollow Per My Last EmailInstagram: @permylastemailshowTikTok: @permylastemailshowTwitter: @permylast_emailHave a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected]Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesEach week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!