In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by author Brad Stulberg to dig into what we get wrong about “excellence,” what true excellence really looks like, and the achievable strategies to achieve it. Also check out Brad’s new book, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World.This episode was sponsored by Granola. Head to granola.ai/brew to try Granola for free. That’s granola.ai/brew to try it today for FREE. Find Granola-generated notes on this episode here: https://notes.granola.ai/t/f3c9df4d-0c70-4de5-b584-bea0f16d3dcf-009c2hma Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:  @PerMYLastEmailShowFollow Per My Last EmailInstagram: @permylastemailshowTikTok: @permylastemailshowTwitter: @permylast_emailHave a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected]Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesEach week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices