Is it cringe to try too hard? In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Normal Gossip co-creator and Defector Media co-owner Alex Sujong Laughlin to talk about the ins and outs of being a “try hard” at work. Alex’s new podcast, Try Hard, documents people attempting things that they’re afraid to do, and in this episode you’ll hear about a couple of moments when Alex and Kaila’s fear of being cringe nearly held back their career progress.This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14.Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:  @PerMYLastEmailShowFollow Per My Last EmailInstagram: @permylastemailshowTikTok: @permylastemailshowTwitter: @permylast_emailHave a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected]Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesEach week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!