Per My Last Email
Per My Last Email
Morning Brew
Balancing Friendship Inside & Outside of Work, with Morning Brew Daily’s Neal Freyman & Toby Howell
36 minutes Posted Aug 11, 2025 at 10:00 am.
Intro
How Neal and Toby originally became friends
How being both friends and colleagues has affected their work
Developing the Morning Brew Daily show
On the period that Toby and Neal were together 24/7
Advice for someone unsure about cultivating a deep friendship at work
The difference between having work friends at a small company versus a larger one
Neal and Toby answer questions from their own Morning Brew Daily production team
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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew Daily hosts Neal Freyman and Toby Howell to talk about a subject they know better than anyone—the reality of having a work bestie. Listen to hear Neal and Toby share the story of how they went from colleagues, to friends, to podcast co-hosts, and the unexpected benefits and potential drawbacks of having such a tight working relationship.
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Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!
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