Church History Matters
Church History Matters
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The Church History Matters Podcast features in-depth conversations between Scott and Casey where they dive deep into both the challenges and beauty of Latter-day Saint Church History
213 - Faith, Utah Politics and Opium I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
In this episode of Church History Matters, hosts Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths continue their exploration of politics and religion by examining some of the most challenging and fascinating chapters of Latter-day Saint history. Together they explore how political pressures, party loyalties, and national events shaped the Church and its members during the nineteenth century. The discussion begins with the difficult subject of slavery in early Utah Territory, examining how Utah's territorial laws reflected the complicated political realities of the era and how Church leaders navigated an increasingly divided United States. Scott and Casey then turn to the unique political system that developed in Utah, explaining the origins of the People's Party and the Liberal Party, why they dominated territorial politics for decades, and why Church leaders ultimately encouraged their dissolution so Latter-day Saints could participate in the nation's two major political parties—the Democrats and Republicans. The episode also takes an in-depth look at the remarkable story of Apostle Moses Thatcher. Once one of the Church's most gifted leaders, Thatcher's struggles with chronic illness, reliance on opium-based medications, growing political independence, and refusal to sign the Church's Political Manifesto placed him at odds with fellow Church leaders. His eventual release from the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles remains one of the most significant intersections of faith, politics, and personal conviction in Latter-day Saint history. How should religious organizations interact with political movements? What lessons can modern believers learn from these historical experiences? And what does this history teach us about balancing civic engagement with religious devotion? Join Scott and Casey as they explore these important questions and uncover the historical context behind one of the most politically complex periods in Church history. In this episode you'll learn: • Why the People's Party and Liberal Party emerged—and why they disappeared. • How Utah transitioned into the national Democratic and Republican parties. • The life, political views, and challenges of Apostle Moses Thatcher. • The role of the Political Manifesto and its impact on Church leadership. • Lessons about religion, politics, and faithful citizenship that continue to resonate today. If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about Latter-day Saint history, be sure to like, subscribe, and share this episode with others interested in the Restoration and its historical context. #ChurchHistoryMatters #ChurchHistory #LDSHistory #MormonHistory #ReligionAndPolitics #MosesThatcher #UtahHistory #Slavery #Restoration #ScottWoodward #CaseyGriffiths
Jul 14
1 hr 2 min
212 - New Data: History of the LDS Church and Slavery I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
How did the early Latter-day Saints navigate one of the most difficult and divisive issues in American history—slavery? In this episode of Church History Matters, hosts Casey Griffiths and Scott Woodward are joined by historian and author Paul Reeve for an in-depth discussion on slavery, race, and the Latter-day Saint experience in nineteenth-century America. Together, they explore the broader history of slavery in the United States, the political tensions that surrounded westward expansion, and how these national debates influenced the Utah Territory. What were the views of early Church leaders regarding slavery? Why did slavery exist in Utah Territory, and how did it differ from slavery in the American South? How did questions surrounding slavery affect Utah’s relationship with the federal government and its long road to statehood? Drawing on historical documents and recent scholarship, Paul Reeve helps unpack the complex realities of race, slavery, territorial politics, and religion in the nineteenth century. The conversation examines the legal status of slavery in Utah, the experiences of enslaved individuals in the territory, and the ways national conflicts over slavery shaped perceptions of the Latter-day Saints during the years leading up to the Civil War and beyond.
Jul 7
1 hr 17 min
211 - Joseph Smith's Political Platform for President I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
What happens when a prophet runs for President of the United States? In this fascinating episode of Church History Matters, hosts Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths are joined by historian and author Derek Sainsbury to explore the remarkable 1844 presidential campaign of Joseph Smith. Together they examine why Joseph Smith entered the race for the nation's highest office, the political and religious circumstances that motivated his candidacy, and the bold reforms outlined in his campaign platform. The discussion explores Joseph Smith’s proposals for the gradual abolition of slavery through compensated emancipation, prison reform focused on rehabilitation rather than punishment, reducing the size and cost of the federal government, and providing stronger protections for religious minorities whose rights were often ignored on the American frontier. The episode also investigates one of the most unique aspects of Joseph Smith’s campaign—his use of Latter-day Saint missionaries as political representatives to spread awareness of his platform across the United States. Was Joseph Smith’s campaign a serious bid for the presidency, a protest against government failures, or a visionary attempt to address some of the nation’s most pressing problems? Join Scott, Casey, and Derek as they uncover the historical context, political ideas, and lasting significance of one of the most unusual presidential campaigns in American history.
Jun 30
1 hr 16 min
210 - New Details on Joseph Smith's Run for President I Church History Matters I Religion & Politics
What happens when faith and politics collide? In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore one of the most fascinating and controversial chapters in Latter-day Saint history: Joseph Smith’s views on religion, government, and the United States Constitution. What happened when Joseph Smith met with President Martin VanBuren? What concerns did he have about the protection of religious liberty in America? And what led him to launch an unexpected campaign for President of the United States in 1844? Join Scott and Casey as they examine the political and religious climate of Joseph Smith’s day, the persecution that shaped his views on government, and the reforms he proposed in his presidential platform. Along the way, they discuss Joseph’s teachings about constitutional principles, the role of religion in public life, and why his candidacy became a significant moment in both American and Latter-day Saint history. Whether you're interested in Church history, American history, or the ongoing relationship between faith and politics, this episode provides important context and thoughtful insights into Joseph Smith’s vision for the nation and his enduring reverence for the Constitution. #ChurchHistoryMatters #JosephSmith #Constitution #LDSHistory #ChurchHistory #AmericanHistory #ReligiousFreedom #PresidentialCampaign #LatterdaySaints #ScottWoodward #CaseyGriffiths
Jun 23
1 hr 16 min
209 - Does Science Conflict With the Word of Wisdom? I Church History Matters I Word of Wisdom Series
This final episode in the Church History Matters series on the Word of Wisdom untangles the difference between revelation, policy, science, folklore, and culture, showing how modern-day science on health matches up against a revelation on health from 1833. Through historical sources, prophetic statements, and changing scientific principles over time, we explore the Word of Wisdom verse by verse and compare it to modern day medical knowledge. Whether you’ve wondered about meat in the Word of Wisdom, the Church’s history with caffeinated drinks, or how certain cultural assumptions developed among Latter-day Saints, this episode provides important context, clarity, and nuance for one of the most discussed revelations in Church history.
Jun 16
57 min
208 - Are Caffeine and Meat Against the Word of Wisdom? I Church History Matters I Word of Wisdom Series
In this episode of Church History Matters, we trace the fascinating and sometimes surprising history of the Word of Wisdom throughout the 1900s. How did a revelation originally framed as “not by commandment or constraint” become one of the defining markers of Latter-day Saint identity? Along the way, we explore the influence of Elder John A. Widtsoe and Leah Widtsoe’s influential book The Word of Wisdom, the leadership of President David O. McKay, and the growing cultural debates surrounding caffeine, chocolate, meat consumption, and other “gray areas” that shaped Mormon life in the twentieth century. We’ll examine how Saints and leaders wrestled with questions the revelation itself does not explicitly answer: Is caffeine against the Word of Wisdom? What about cola drinks? Why did some members avoid chocolate or hot soup while others focused only on coffee, tea, alcohol, and tobacco? And how did cultural traditions, personal opinions, and local teachings sometimes become confused with doctrine?
Jun 9
52 min
207 - How the Word of Wisdom Became a Temple Standard I Church History Matters I Word of Wisdom Series
Join hosts Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths for a fascinating deep dive into the evolution of the Word of Wisdom from the era of Brigham Young to Heber J. Grant. Discover how early Church leaders viewed the revelation as inspired counsel rather than a strict commandment, why enforcement varied across generations, and how attitudes toward tea, coffee, alcohol, and tobacco gradually changed over time. The episode also explores John Taylor and the intriguing “lost revelation” theory connected to the Word of Wisdom during his administration. Finally, Scott and Casey examine the pivotal moment under Heber J. Grant when full adherence to the Word of Wisdom became a requirement for temple attendance, forever shaping modern Latter-day Saint culture and identity.
Jun 2
1 hr 13 min
206 - U.S. Constitution is Critical to Freedom Everywhere I Church History Matters I Religion & Politics
In this episode of Church History Matters, hosts Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore the Latter-day Saint perspective on the divinely inspired nature of the United States Constitution as taught in the Doctrine and Covenants. What did Joseph Smith and early Church leaders think about the Constitution? What does it mean that God “established” the Constitution? Why is it applicable to all nations? And how should modern disciples understand these revelations today? Together, Scott and Casey dive into key passages from the Doctrine and Covenants, including Sections 98 and 101, while unpacking the historical context surrounding religious liberty, agency, and the role of constitutional government in God’s plan. They also address common misunderstandings, modern political assumptions, and how faithful Saints can approach these teachings with both conviction and nuance. Whether you’re interested in Church history, constitutional principles, or restored doctrine, this episode offers thoughtful insights into one of the most discussed themes in Latter-day Saint scripture.
May 26
1 hr 8 min
205 - Did Brigham Young Enjoy Tobacco? I Church History Matters I Word of Wisdom Series
What did the Word of Wisdom actually look like in the days of Brigham Young? In this fascinating episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore how early Latter-day Saints understood, practiced, and sometimes struggled to live the Word of Wisdom during the pioneer era. From frontier medicine and tobacco use to coffee, tea, and homemade alcohol, Brigham Young’s generation approached the revelation in ways that may surprise modern members of the Church. Scott and Casey examine Brigham Young’s teachings, personal example, and efforts to gradually encourage the Saints toward greater obedience while building Zion in the American West. Along the way, they uncover stories about pioneer culture, the economic push to produce local goods instead of importing “Gentile” products, and the slow evolution of the Word of Wisdom from inspired counsel into a temple worthiness standard. This episode provides important historical context for one of the most recognizable practices in Latter-day Saint life today.
May 19
1 hr 8 min
204 - Did Joseph Smith Drink Alcohol? I Church History Matters I Word of Wisdom Series
In this episode, we explore how Joseph Smith personally kept the Word of Wisdom as a divine principle of health, spiritual strength, and wise living—not just a list of restrictions. Revealed in 1833 and recorded in Doctrine and Covenants Section 89, the Word of Wisdom was originally given as “a principle with promise,” offering guidance on caring for the body and drawing closer to God. Join us as we trace the history of the Word of Wisdom in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from its early introduction during Joseph Smith’s lifetime to its development as a defining standard of faith and discipleship. Discover how this revelation shaped Latter-day Saint identity and why it remains one of the most discussed and important teachings in the Church today.
May 12
55 min
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