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In this honest conversation, Natalie Grant & Bernie Herms open up about insecurity, ambition, and the hidden struggles behind worship ministry. From chasing success to surrendering identity, this episode challenges what we think calling really looks like. If you’ve ever wrestled with platform, purpose, or comparison, this one is for you. ----------------------------------------- Try Amazing+ Free: Access the world’s first total ministry strategy from curriculum and technology, to train...

