With environmental destruction threatening our oceans, what might a fresh plan to protect them look like? Chris Armstrong, political theory professor at the University of Southampton, joins Ros Taylor to discuss his new book A Blue New Deal, which outlines a manifesto for protecting our seas.

• “Our reliance on the ocean has diminished, before air travel we had to use it to get to the other side of the world.”
• “Although the ocean absorbs most the carbon we emit, it has limits and we are reaching them.”
• “We need to engage in radical thinking in order to save our oceans.”

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Presented by Ros Taylor. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production

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