As Boris Johnson and Sajid Javid roll the dice with the health of millions, healthcare commentator Roy Lilley takes us on a deep dive into what’s in store for the NHS. Plus, the Cuban uprising and the Labour Left, the Pegasus spyware scandal, and do universities really need a Free Speech Enforcer? (Spoiler: no). Plus… are you on a pilot scheme? If not, why not? 

• “I’ve been around politics for a long time, and this is the worst situation I’ve ever seen.” – Roy Lilley 
• “The problem with making irreversible promises is that when you have to reverse them, you look like a shambles even to people who agree with you.” – Yasmeen Serhan 
• “Two hours of Twitter and Johnson reverses himself. We appear to be governed by jellyfish.” – Gavin Esler 
• “The NHS is holding its breath… it’s high wire time.” – Roy Lilley

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