A conversation about the complicated relationship between change, innovation and loss, and how to understand who we are and who we've become in a world where we're never truly offline. 

Vox Conversations: https://www.vox.com/vox-conversations-podcast

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Vox interviews writer

Guest: Pamela Paul (@PamelaPaulNYT), author and New York Times Book Review editor 

References: 

 •  100 Things We've Lost to the Internet by Pamela Paul (Penguin Random House; 2021)

 •  Pornified: How Pornography Is Damaging Our Lives, Our Relationships, and Our Families by Pamela Paul (St. Martin's Griffin; 2006)

 •  "Let Children Get Bored Again" by Pamela Paul (New York Times; Feb. 2, 2019)

 •  "For Teen Girls, Instagram Is a Cesspool" by Lindsay Crouse (New York Times; Oct. 8)

 •  "The Moral Panic Engulfing Instagram" by Farhad Manjoo (New York Times; Oct. 13)

This episode was made by: 

 •  Producer: Erikk Geannikis

 •  Editor: Amy Drozdowska

 •  Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey

 •  Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall

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